Posted on 08/07/2010 9:33:54 AM PDT by Leza2
HOLIYAH SOETORO SABAH, LIA, OBAMAS ADOPTED SISTER
What information was taken to her grave?
You havent heard of Lia? Neither had we. The unknown, until now, adopted sister of Barack Hussein Obama died unexpectedly February 26, 1910. The USA media didnt cover the story of this woman nor was her name found until the last few days. A competent WTPOTUS sleuth, Leza, and other researchers uncovered an article about an adopted brother in Indonesia, named Lia or Lee. Following up on a tidbit of information and other clues, more information was uncovered. Lia was an adopted sister, not a brother. Two Indonesian obituaries were just found. These tell the final tale of this woman nicknamed Lia.
Below is a tiny photo of Edi Sobat and Lia Soetoro Sobat.
Her name was Holiyah Soetoro Sobah, age 53, born in 1957. She was the wife of Edi Sobah, age 60. They live in West Java, Indonesia. They had three children: Heni; Marlina, age 27; and Nova Noni, age 25, and four grandchildren. In translated articles Barack Obama is referred to as her adopted brother and foster brother. The fact she used the name Soetoro certainly is telling. It appears that Lolo and Ann adopted Lia, but there is no documentation for that assumption, just her words in an article. The only knowledge we have about Lia is from one article and her obituaries.
An Indonesian article was written about Lias invitation to the presidential inauguration in 2008. She was very excited about seeing Barack Obama again. The last time they saw each other was in 1971 when Lia visited him in Hawaii. She was 14 at the time, and Barry was 10.
When Lia was leaving Hawaii after her 3 month long visit, Madelyn Dunham gave her a monkey doll and clothes that she is holding in her picture. The doll brought back so many fond memories that she was planning to give it to him when they met again.
She stated that she received her invitation to the presidential inauguration in a phone call from a close friend of Maya Soetoro, Barack Obamas half sister. The translation said that a white woman who wears glasses and who she knows by the name of Gelf asked her to attend Obamas inauguration. Gelf also asked her to be prepared to meet with Barry before hand. Additionally, Lia was told that a woman of status and means would be paying the Rp600.000 for her birth certificate and travel. After receiving the money, she was told to wait for further news about the final plans. Whether Lia came to the USA to attend the festivities in January, 2008 is unknown.
More information from the article said that Lia stayed at the home of Lolo Soetoro (Obamas stepfather) and Ann Dunham Soetoro. If I understood the translation, one morning in 1966, Lia, age 7, ran away from home. She ended up at the house owned by Mrs. Siti Bogor. It happened that Mrs. Bogor was a maid who worked for Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham in Jakarta. At some point, Stanley Ann Dunham asked Mrs. Bogor if she could adopt Lia. The answer was yes.
She said she called Lolo and Ann, Mr. and Mrs Lolo Eny. In return, they called Lia Non a nickname for Nona. She said, I was always called Non, but Barry called me Maam Non. When Lia lived with the Soetoros Maya hadnt been born yet, and Barry was living with his grandmother in Hawaii.
After living with Lolo and Ann for awhile, Eny [Annie] promised to give her a sister who would keep her company. Ann told her, Stay well, Ill pick up your brother Barry. Two years later, Barry left Hawaii and went to Indonesia to live with Lolo, his mother, and Lia. Lia remembered that Obama was four years younger than she. She said that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961. Lia stated that Barry Obama went to school and got a basic education in Jakarta.
According to Lia, she and Barry were always together; they played, slept and bathed together. They traveled on vacations as a family as well. Several times they went to the summit, Yogyakarta, Bali, to the Land of Toraja (Sulawesi South), and the Bogor Botanical Gardens. They loved to travel.
Amazing isnt it that this adopted sister has remained unknown and not acknowledged as part of Barack Obamas life story. Her name was never mentioned in his books or by Maya Soetoro-Nyg. As far as we know, it appears Barack Obama didnt attend his step sisters funeral in Indonesia. Lias family need not feel bad, he nor Michelle or their children didnt pay their respects to Grandma Madelyn either. Grandma Madelyn was not surrounded by loving family when she departed this earth, and a proper burial ceremony wasnt performed. God rest their souls.
More facts may be revealed about Lias origins and her adoption by the Soetoro family. We are left to wonder what happened to her biological parents and why was she adopted by Lolo and Ann? Why did Lia run away from home? What happened to Lia after Stanley divorced Lolo? Who is Gelf? Who was the wealthy woman that sent money to Lia? Why has she been kept a secret? What caused her death? What secrets did she take to her grave?
Hours prior to her unexpected demise, she was talking to several journalists about Barrys anticipated arrival to Jakarta, Indonesia. She was sending messages to her husbands cell phone about those conversations. Unfortunately for her, Lia didnt live to see Barack Obama, her adopted, foster brother, again. Lia died on Friday, February 26, 2010.
Below is the Indonesian to English translation of the article and obituary. Some of the words are incorrect when translated, i.e., Lia is called a brother, and the he and shes are mixed up, but you certainly will understand it even if a bit confusing.
Obamas Adopted Sister Foster Brother and Maid? Barry Happiness, Happiness Non Mbak Sriwijaya, Indonesia Post Tuesday, January 20, 2009 U.S. PRESIDENT elected, Barrack Hussein Obama, was once a four-year stay in Indonesia. Although now widely separated by time and place, many Indonesian people who are made happy with the victory of Obama. One of them is Mbak Lia aka Non, foster brother when Obama was in Indonesia. I call him Barry because its hard to say Barrack. So, I call him Barry, said Lia (51), on Tuesday [Jan. 13] at her home, in Kampung Babakan Bantam, Sukasirna Village, District Cibadak, Sukabumi, West Java.
Lia meeting Barry is a coincidence. One morning in 1966, Lias new seven-year-old ran away from home. Lia little confused at being dumped into a house owned by Mrs. Siti Bogor. Apparently, Mrs Siti is a maid in the house the couple Lolo Sutoro and Stanley Ann Dunham in Jakarta. When Mrs Dunham Siti pick to return to Jakarta, he asked Allie to be adopted.
Two years after Allie to be adopted Sutoro and Dunham, Sutoro pick Barry from the U.S.. At that time, Sutoro become a manager at PT Pertamina. At first, Lia pleased that means it will have a friend and foster sister. We met, I said to my mother, I am not happy that a black child and could not speak Indonesian, said Lia.
Mrs Dunham convince Lia that Barry would be a nice sister. After obtaining Indonesian tutoring for seven months, Barry began to communicate with Lia and Siti who are called by Simbok.
Barry called Mbak Lia with a call girl, followed her mother calls. There are many memories in the mind of Barry Lia about the figure. . One of the unforgettable memories that Lia is a hobby Barrys speech.
Barry very happy listening to Suhartos speeches on television. When President Suhartos speech, Barry wrote it down neatly. After that, he practiced the speech of President Suharto in front of the house, says Lia.
One time, Barry was President Suhartos speech mimicked in an event several times declared Indonesia as a country that Gemah Ripah jinawi loh. Hes very difficult to spell those words, but to impose that sounds funny, says Lia.
At home, Barry and Lee shared a bedroom, but different beds. Barry and Lia always wanting to sleep and wake up together. When Lia got up earlier and leave Barry, he would be furious. After that, he then tied my hands and arms with a long rope. If one woke up, only allowed to leave the room when he woke the others, says Lia.
In 1971, Barry returned to Hawaii. Lia joined him and got three months in Hawaii before returning to Indonesia. In Hawaii, Lia often invited Barry to go to the beach or to go shopping. Lia sad when parting with Barry.
By the inauguration of Obama, Lia received notification will be invited by a member of Obamas successful team. However, until now there is no certainty. Despite claiming shed love to meet with his adopted brother, Lia chose her desire to bury deep. Lia was glad her sister is black, filthy, and often annoying it becomes U.S. President.
Raise the U.S. Presidents brother dies Friday, 02/26/2010 - 14:26
SUKABUMI, (PRLM) .- The desire Mrs. Holiyah (53) residents of Kampung Babakan Bantam, Village Sukasirna, Cibadak District, Sukabumi Regency wanted to meet the President of the United States (U.S.), Barrack Hussein Obama is disappeared. Holiyah Soetoro often called Lia, Thursday (25 / 2) died shortly before sunset.
Bodies of mother who has three children and four grandchildren, the Friday (26 / 2) is buried not far from his home. Seen her husband, Ibn [Edi] Sobah not withstand the power of compassion as Lias body was buried.
Lias death which was judged very suddenly hit her feelings. Several hours before her death her husband, [Edi] Ibn Sobah could receive short messages via his mobile telephone. He was interviewed a number of journalists inform the related plan of the arrival of his adopted brother, Barrack Obama to Jakarta.
He was very nostalgic to see Barry (Lias favorite call to Barack Obama ed). The news of U.S. Presidents arrival plans, had welcomed the coming months the deceased. But what say he died before seeing his adoptive brother, said suamiya, Ibn Sobah.
There’s something wrong with his right leg, maybe an old scar, and if he had a badly set break on his left leg as a child, that could have been reset later. It’s difficult to tell what Lia means, it’s such a bad translation.
Perhaps this isn't the same person...
Thanks for the list, and the reminder that his mother died at the beginning of his political career and the publication of his “autobiography.”
You’re NOT just a pretty face...and a mind-reader as well!
Why are they spelling it Sutoro instead of Soetoro?
Why are they spelling it Sutoro instead of Soetoro?
methinks it’s because, like arabic, the Indonesian language is transcribed into English phonetically.
Does he darken his face? Look how white his legs are compared to his kid’s. They are whiter than mine.
To continue in the same vein...zero shows up in Indonesia, she says, ‘Barry, show me your left foot, the one you injured when you fell out of the mango tree’ ...
And there’s nothing wrong with his left foot/leg. So he says, ‘no, I won’t show you my leg...’
And she thinks, that’s funny, I wonder...if it’s really him, maybe I should ask him some more questions, like...do you remember...?
Hmm. Good reason NOT to meet her. Ever. But that might just be my vivid imagination at work, right?
Maybe not. Mojitojoe mentioned *David* on another thread. Do you have a picture of David in your files? I believe a picture of him had been posted before.
She’s fairly attractive in videos, whomever she is ..
Beckwith’s info at the bottom
http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/SoetoroDunhamMarriage.htm
And also, info I had posted at #28 of this thread
This whole family’s complexities and weirdness could not be more bizarre .. will we ever know the whole story ?
http://www.barackhobamafoundation.org/Barack-H-Obama-Sr.html
sometimes he died in 1984, sometimes in 1987.
Interesting comments re ‘David’ here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/7368/recalling-jack-kemps-cameo-dreams-my-father
I don’t think Fred Nerks’ imagination is “too vivid” at all! Because we know virtually NOTHING about the usurper we are forced to think outside the box (which is hard for me).
Thank goodness there are FReepers who are willing to explore the unknown.
I remember seeing a picture of BO’s brother...the one in China...and thinking how they look so much the same even though they had different mothers. Or did they?
My jaw is STILL on the floor! The similarity of David and little Barry are unbelievable! Same hair cut and if David’s smile was a little bigger they’d be identical. And where are BO’s big, dumbo-like ears in that photo? (A photo I’ve seen many times and never really noticed the ears until now.)
Hands up all those who STILL think Mark looks anything like zero?
Is there a tan line right above the edge of the neck of the t shirt in the last picture....Has he been using the tanning booth? Is the reason he appears so washed out lately really because he wanted to appear darker (and younger/hairdye when he was running for office.?
She probably is dead. Most people who know anything about this impostor are either dead or not talking.
Only problem is the ones we need before 1965 are missing. Seems a mysterious fire got them. Now we don't know where she went when she was supposedly pregnant, I'm not even convinced of that yet.
Now anyone that believes that,....I've got some swamp land.... After studying some of how our security agencies act, react, and are so easily corrupted, including nsa, dia,cia,fbi and others which ever one is taking care of(deleting everything they can get their hands on)of Barrys' stuff or anyone related to him has done it again.IMHO.
Wow what a thread! You could spend a lifetime following the links of this one. Great job Star as usual.!!
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