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Fighting fire with fire [man v woman & BBQ]
NYP ^ | July 24, 2010 | DON KAPLAN and STEFANIE COHEN

Posted on 07/24/2010 5:51:25 AM PDT by smokingfrog

The battle of the sexes is sizzling this summer.

Elizabeth Karmel — one of the few women in New York to helm a top grill pit — rakes male cooks over the coals with her new “The Girls’ Guide to Grilling” (at stfsavortheflavor.com).

In it, she claims that women are just as good — if not better — at taming the outdoor flame.

“The great thing about being a woman in the male-dominated world of grilling is that in the end, it’s all about the food, not about fire-building or pounding my fist on my chest,” says Karmel, executive chef at Hill Country (30 W. 26th St.). “I don’t need to be macho, I just need the food to taste great.”

She adds that women who try grilling her way will find that not only is the experience not messy, they can actually feel feminine while they do it.

“I think everyone should look pretty while they’re grilling,” she says. “Because we all feel better about ourselves when we look pretty.” She suggests wearing grilling mitts to protect long fingernails, and mitts to protect fingernails, and avoiding heels by a hot grill, preferring to go barefoot.

But her comments have sparked a war in the testosterone-fueled world of red-meat-cooking males.

“I’m not worried about getting dirty; I want flavor,” says Andrew Fischel, owner of Rub BBQ (208 W. 23rd St.). “If I’m not getting smoky and getting greasy, than I’m not cooking. Grilling outside is about getting smoke in your eyes and dirt under your fingernails — all that great stuff. That’s why a lot of men gravitate towards grilling . . . the dirt, the smoke, it’s all part of the experience.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Food; Society
KEYWORDS: charcoal; propane
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1 posted on 07/24/2010 5:51:28 AM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Not guilty!


2 posted on 07/24/2010 5:54:48 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: smokingfrog
The battle of the sexes is sizzling this summer.

My wife can grill when she pries the tongs from my cold, dead fingers.

3 posted on 07/24/2010 5:54:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

The right to keep and bear tongs belongs to men only!


4 posted on 07/24/2010 5:57:43 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: stainlessbanner; Constitution Day

BBQ ping. OK, so it’s grilling, not bbq, and it’s NYC. But still, ping!


5 posted on 07/24/2010 6:00:16 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: smokingfrog
“The great thing about being a woman in the male-dominated world of grilling is that in the end, it’s all about the food, not about fire-building or pounding my fist on my chest,”

"Oh, and by the way, I'm a feminist who hates men."

6 posted on 07/24/2010 6:01:13 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: smokingfrog
with the exception of Hank Hill....

....Propane grilling is for wusses and women..............here is the real deal .....

7 posted on 07/24/2010 6:01:46 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: smokingfrog

when grilling chicken do you prefer breasts or thighs?

just asking.


8 posted on 07/24/2010 6:02:45 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: smokingfrog; SpinnerWebb
Yo, Liz. You cannot, I repeat, cannot, BBQ on a gas grill.

Stupid Yankees, you BBQ on one of these:

Like this:


9 posted on 07/24/2010 6:05:21 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: smokingfrog

Hell, she can light my grill anytime! :~)

10 posted on 07/24/2010 6:15:18 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: smokingfrog
First, she can use my grill anytime.

"The great thing about being a woman in the male-dominated world of grilling is that in the end, it’s all about the food...

Well, really, it is about the food, the cold beer that just seems to go naturally with grilling, and not heating up the house when it is 90+ outside.

What's for dinner? Charred animal flesh. Sorry PETA and vegans... I'm a omnivore at the top of the food chain and proud of it.

11 posted on 07/24/2010 6:25:11 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: tx_eggman

Actually charcoal is for Haitians and other backyard novices.

For flavor, you use hardwood to smoke meats, like Hickory or Apple. How you get and keep the cooking food hot is of no consequence.

If you smoke a good steak, or grill it on charcoal, you might as well feed it to the dog.


12 posted on 07/24/2010 6:26:40 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

True. Here we’re talking about throwing something on the grill for dinner. Not real BBQ. Real BBQ is an all day affair.


13 posted on 07/24/2010 6:33:53 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: smokingfrog
Before you pass out napkins to wipe the drool of of all the menfolks chins .... This is Elizabeth Karmel .......a.k.a The Queen of the Grill........

...and her partner in charring crime ....Gretchen Belmonti ...........a.k.a. The Groovin’ Griller


14 posted on 07/24/2010 6:34:15 AM PDT by Daffynition (There is no other cheese.)
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To: beebuster2000

thighs

I’m a leg man.


15 posted on 07/24/2010 6:35:08 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: Vaquero

The REAL DEAL is Ceramic with Hard wood lump charcoal


16 posted on 07/24/2010 6:41:18 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Actually charcoal is for Haitians and other backyard novices.

Did you see any charcoal in those 2 pics?

If you smoke a good steak, or grill it on charcoal, you might as well feed it to the dog.

If by charcoal, you mean this crap:

I would agree. My steaks are grilled on this:

at 700 degrees over lump hardwood charcoal - takes about 6 1/2 minutes. Feeding one of them to a dog would warrant consigning you to hell for all eternity.

17 posted on 07/24/2010 6:44:29 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: 70th Division
The REAL DEAL is Ceramic with Hard wood lump charcoal

too complicated....I can drag my Weber Smokey Joe little grill and a bag of Kingsford (or perhaps some mesquite)anywhere....Ceramic sounds too yuppie and/or Chicom for me.

18 posted on 07/24/2010 6:50:42 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: tx_eggman
Feeding one of them to a dog would warrant consigning you to hell for all eternity.

Depends on the dog ... and your steak budget.
19 posted on 07/24/2010 6:52:55 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: 70th Division
The REAL DEAL is Ceramic with Hard wood lump charcoal

Depends. See my "tools" in posts #9 and #17.

I use The Beast® pictured in post #9 to smoke briskets /ribs. I have done them on the Green Egg pictured in #17 but they're not nearly as smoky and I can't do more than a single brisket or 3 racks of ribs. On The Beast®I can triple those volumes.

My gas grill has not been used once since the advent of my Green Egg - it is one of the most amazing grilling machines on the planet.

20 posted on 07/24/2010 6:58:07 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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