Posted on 07/16/2010 7:36:37 AM PDT by RachelFaith
As Apple prepared to address the mounting controversy surrounding the antenna of the iPhone 4, one thing appeared clear: the company does not plan to recall the popular device.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
I have an iPhone 3GS and love it. My company was going to buy a bunch of new iPhone 4’s. That is now on hold.
Hi Rachel,
You really need to learn what FUD is, but then again you really need to learn a lot of things about technology (as we’ve seen over the last few weeks)...
What I said before wasn’t FUD; if I kept claiming there would be a recall NOW then it would be FUD.
Apple acknowledges that it’s a fatal flaw for at least some of their clients. They’re giving out free bumpers to mask the problem, or letting people return the phone for the next 60 days.
And implicit in that return is AT&T letting you out of the contract. Meaning Apple will PAY for you to return your phone.
It’s a real problem, not like what you’re trying to pretend here. It affects real people, and Apple is spending real money to fix it. How that is FUD is a mystery...
I’m reading about it now (just woke up here in China), but it appears they’ve figured out how to correct the issue for the future, and how to mask it for now.
However, I don’t think ANYONE can claim at all that there isn’t a problem, or there never was a problem. I’d expect Swordmaker and RachelFaith to apologize for calling me darn near every name in the book over the fact I stated there was a problem with the antennas. Because Apple clearly has vindicated my claim - the antenna design IS flawed.
As far as the fix, I’m pretty sure they’re going to overmold the antennas with a clear PE coating, and are probably planning to put that into effect this coming week at the antenna manufacturer. That gets the antennas into Foxconn around the first of August, meaning a month of production before delivery to the US so these patched/covered antennas can get into the supply chain by the end of September, that matches the “return for refund” date.
A big question will now be - will AT&T honor a return after more than 30 days? You sign up for an AT&T account, and the law states you have 30 days to cancel without penalty. What about folks who return later than that? Apple will give you your money back, but can you get out of the AT&T contract?
Were there 1.5 million (0.5% of the population) at the demonstration? If not, Rutles comparison stands.
The issue is that many refused to even admit it WAS an issue, and those who pointed out the facts (facts that are now vindicated by Apple) were roundly attacked and libeled for that very act.
And you know that no one will apologize for it...
It’s one thing to state “it’s not a big problem” it’s another to deny there IS a problem. I mean, if there is no problem, then why is Apple doing what they’re doing? Clearly it IS a problem to at least some of their users.
I'm glad you like my idea. I've been saying that was an easy solution for many days on the iPhone threads. You're welcome.
Doesn't have to be a hard coat, just an insulating layer. I'm thinking a thin clear-coat lacquer, like on magnet wire.
Yep. Pretty good outcome, overall.
> However, I dont think ANYONE can claim at all that there isnt a problem, or there never was a problem.
Agreed. In fact the free cases are a clear admission that there's something wrong with hardware as well as software, even if they didn't say the words. Been there, done that.
> ...Apple clearly has vindicated my claim - the antenna design IS flawed.
Yeah.
> As far as the fix, Im pretty sure theyre going to overmold the antennas with a clear PE coating, and are probably planning to put that into effect this coming week at the antenna manufacturer. That gets the antennas into Foxconn around the first of August, meaning a month of production before delivery to the US so these patched/covered antennas can get into the supply chain by the end of September, that matches the return for refund date.
Yep, good call.
For the time being, end of big news story...
I sincerely refuse. I refuse because that was not what I did. Nor was the antenna issue the issue you were being called out about. This is more of your trying to change the nature of the discussion, to create a straw man that you can flail at trying to make yourself look right, and Rachel and I look wrong. BAH! More of your trademark misrepresentations and lies.
PUG !!!
Hello????
I didn’t call you ANY NAMES over the Antenna issue.
Remember? I agreed with you that something WAS happening... it was REAL and did effect people in the real world.
Hello?
Then you STILL Attacked me....
Then we had a bet where you said you DIDN’T and if I proved you did you’d apologize to me!!
Remember this?
It was only YESTERDAY....
Then you posted how I didn’t prove it...
And NOW...
NOW you attack me again as if I never agreed with you!
Well, THIS POST is Proof #2 that you are one very messed up hombre...
I mean, if you couldn’t tell the good cop from the bad cop in this whole sting, what’s the use?
I mean, I shouldn’t ever agree with anything you say if you are going to forget I said it and attack me anyway.
Now you owe me TWO apologies!!
Don’t do it again or I’m gonna need to start keeping a LIST !!!
= (
Oh and PS: Yeah, what Sword man said.. it’s not really so much about WHAT you say, I mean, if you’d stick to one point, it wouldn’t be that bad... it’s when you do like this, and lump me in with the crowd, when I was with Day here and agreeing, then forget or pretend you didn’t do or say or mean what you did say. It’s the John Kerry thing... it’s really uncool and drives people batty.
are you always an ass or just that way on FR?
What the heck is wrong with you lady! It’s clear PugetSS was right and your defense of Apple was at best misguided. So just apologize and make this a non-issue.
I swear I don’t understand why people continue to admit they didn’t make a mistake when clearly they have. It’s not like someone will die by you saying you were a bit off target on your defense of apple and accusing PSS of lying was wrong.
Geez, who peed in your cornflakes?
I just thought it was funny as hell, that after your endlessly repeating stupid challenge (stupid because it was inapplicable, since I long ago agreed with the position you claimed to be taking), when you finally offered an opinion of what Apple might do to directly address the antenna hardware issue, you used the idea that I had been promulgating in these threads from the beginning.
So I thought I'd rib you a little about it. Sorry that you took offense. Maybe I should have put these on it to make it clear I was just pulling your leg a little. :) :) :)
((( Psst... For-q-clinton... Swordmaker is a guy. Did you perhaps mean to address Rachel? )))
I'll accept your apology now...
You first. You owe me at least two. Maybe one for the sexist stuff last week.
Well and “kisses deary” this week... that’s pretty insulting too.
Just so ya know... we won’t be holding our breath.
LOL
Short term memory shot? Accusing me of spreading FUD (lying) when we have proof from Apple there's an antenna problem.
You can apologize now...
Kisses dearie is sexist? OK, then I’m sorry. I’ll never give you kisses or call you any endearing term ever again.
Now will you apologize for calling me the biggest liar in the history of the Earth, better than Satan, and diabolical?
Oh you are soooo cute when you lie boldly.
Silly git! That was AFTER we had the facts.
I am talking yesterday...
Remember?
Yesterday was the other day, the one before Apple gave us the facts that it’s only a fraction of a percent.
So, you said FATAL and I call THAT FUD.
See how this works?
If they’d done a total recall... YOU would have won.
But you picked #3... yeah, I know you sorta hedged... but common... you wanted it, you know it.
Smile...
Yeah...
LOL
Hell No!!
You are AMAZING!!
You can't even bring yourself to keep your own posts straight from one day to the next.
And I think your sane, so this MUST be an act.
It's truly otherwordly.
Yeah, and I get out too. Never been on a slow boat to China or spent a night in Bangkok, but I've been to Europe and 49 of the 50 states.
And I have never seen someone who is so unashamedly a liar.
Never. Even Bill Clinton said he was wrong and bit his lip and all that.
Not you. Nope.
Better to rule in PC hell than serve in Mac heaven is your epitaph.
Rachel,
Still lying through your teeth about not calling me the biggest liar in the history of the Earth? Do you kiss your grandma with that mouth of filth?
Truly, you’re either mentally disturbed or a pathological liar. Or maybe a bit of both...
But the fact is - you called me that, I’ve proven it, and you still deny. Projection is your strong suit, barrister!
HOW do you do it??
LOL
Oh wow....
Uhm.... NO I DID NOT !!
LIAR LIAR !
HAHAHAHAHA
Sorry... I... just... LOL... can’t...ha ha ha... fake it...LOL
DOOD!!
I’ve never denied it.
I posted I never would.
I’ve said it 18 ways from Sunday!
WHY ??
Why oh why for the love of all that is Holy can you pretend like we have this “She said he said?”
THAT IS LYING!
You are in the act of lying about saying I said I never said you lied.
LOL
That’s awesome.
Never seen anything... LOL
Anything... hahaha Like it...
Oh man... I need air badly
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I wish this was VIDEO CHAT !!!
HA HA HA HA HA
Yeah, I am the one lying about not lying about calling you... no wait... what are you saying this time?
I can’t keep it straight...
HA HA HA HA
Oh I can’t see to type anymore... tears... eyes... HA HA HA HA
Kiss my Grandma... LOL
HA HA HA
Where do you get this stuff??
Oh help... ha ha ha ha
Man. Woooooooo
OK OK... fit of manic laughter passing now...
So, just so you are really clear... not like it will help hahahahaha
But, I have ALWAYS said YOU LIE.
I don’t think you have ever posted the truth. If you posted the sky was blue and the sun Yellow, I’d have to rethink all those coloring books I had when I was a kid.
YES
I called... no no.. I CALL, present and ever omni present tense... YOU... the... BIGGER... Prolific... unnatural... twisted... insane clown posse.. LIAR of all time and creation.
Yes, I said it, SAY it, THINK it. Post it. MEAN IT.
The very fact that you try and hijack every thread with this “Why do you deny calling me a liar” joke is HILARIOUS.
See, I used to take you serious.
I’d see this and other things like it and get all up tight wondering what I said and how it was taken out of context.
Now, I get it.
That’s your straight man... well, metaphorically speaking... wink wink... LOL
But, I get it.
That’s your act.
Play like it never happened or didn’t happen that way and play it off straight faced to the end. Never blink and try to drag every new poster into the gag as if you are really just a serious poster trying to make a point.
GASLIGHT.
You are the biggest gaslighter ever.
Beyond a simple liar.
No... forget that... lying is too easy... topping Satan is a cake walk.
YOU ARE THE GASLIGHTER !!
Yeah.
That is your game.
I get it.
Now, everyone is going to know it.
Cheers!
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