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1 posted on 07/14/2010 8:09:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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A computer tech guy here at the U of C just upgraded his iPhone to the new one. He said the so-called “death grip” isn’t an issue. He’s already put it in a plastic case and said that he could duplicate the “problem” with his older iPhone. He’s very happy with it.


2 posted on 07/14/2010 8:16:02 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
Where are the lines of disgruntled iPhone 4 customers returning their defective phones? PING!

Instead, they are on backorder. Everywhere!

Please don't feed the anti-Apple Trolls,
it just encourages them!


Apple iPhone 4 Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

3 posted on 07/14/2010 8:17:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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Agreed.


4 posted on 07/14/2010 8:19:23 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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Hey, whatever takes the attention off Obama's murder of 1/3rd of the seas and the entire planetary economy...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

5 posted on 07/14/2010 8:22:33 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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6 posted on 07/14/2010 8:28:21 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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I’ve come to the conclusion that this antenna issue is somewhat overblown. Is there a de-tuning effect? Sure. Is there some reduction of RF strength when you grab an antenna? Duh, of course. Unlike most of the people shooting off their mouths about this, I’ve taken (and suffered through) “Fields and Waves” in electrical engineering. Wrap your hand around any 1.8Ghz antenna (whether you contact the metal or not) and you’ll reduce the efficacy of the antenna. Put the antenna between the user’s hand and his skull full of wet mush and the problem becomes worse, not better. Yet we all seem to be making calls and shoving a whole lot of data to and fro on these stupid phones.

But that’s not the reason why it is likely that I won’t go with an iPhone. It is the network issue (and the data plans on the networks) that will likely push me to the Droid platform on Verizon.

First, there’s the coverage issue: AT&T’s network basically sucks in the rural west. There, I said it. Someone had to do it, so I did.

What I’d like is an iPhone on Verizon, but that appears to not be in the cards soon enough to lock down an unlimited data contract with Verizon before they milk the difference in networks as much as they can with the Droid X release.

Unless some huge change happens by the first week of August, I might well go with the VZ/Droid combo to lock in the unlimited data plan for two years. I’ve looked at the Droid programming environment and it is pretty good - maybe not as much to my liking as the iPhone, but I can live with it.

After looking seriously at the Droid in the last week, I really have to say that Apple better get their story straight and get this issue dealt with and off the table. From what I see, the smartphone market is going to come down to two platforms - the iPhone and the Droid, and it will be a steel cage deathmatch.

I now believe this enough that when RIMM next pops up, I’m probably going to initiate a long-term short position on the stock. I see nothing out of Blackberry that looks like they have a plan to respond to the iPhone & Droid. They’ve got only a few months to salvage their future, and the window is going to close by the end of the year at the rate things are progressing.


7 posted on 07/14/2010 8:33:17 PM PDT by NVDave
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8 posted on 07/14/2010 8:34:27 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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I’m just playing devil’s advocate here, but who cares about how well the iPhone 4 performs in an isolation chamber? I don’t make phone calls from my isolation chamber. No, I only use my isolation chamber to breathe in pure oxygen and protect myself from germs.

The guy sounds like a tobacco company lawyer.

9 posted on 07/14/2010 8:38:18 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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They can’t have it back!

- Posted on my iPhone 4


10 posted on 07/14/2010 8:38:59 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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My nephew dumped his iphone for a Sprint 4g after Apple gave him a hard time over an iphone he bought for his daughter. Seems to me Apple is getting too arrogant. My husband got an iphone last year, and after about 2 mths, it wouldn’t hold a charge, so, he took in to Apple and they told him he must have gotten it wet, which he hadn’t, they wouldn’t stand by their phone and he ended up buying a new one. Second one had problems, so back to Apple he went. They replaced it, but he still had problems with the third one, so he went online and figured why it would not charge properly.
I have the more expensive model and have not had problems with it until now when it doesn’t always want to charge properly when I use the car charger, but his has been the cheaper model which has been problematic.


11 posted on 07/14/2010 8:44:34 PM PDT by psjones (u)
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Sorry but no Bravo TV fashion accessories for me. Apple represents the triumph of style over substance and I am against that pop culture trend.


12 posted on 07/14/2010 8:50:39 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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tell it to Consumer Reports...
14 posted on 07/14/2010 8:55:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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The iPhone 4 is suffering from a minor technical problem that's been completely blown out of proportion by the media.

Losing signal and dropping a call if your palm makes contact with the left lower edge of the phone isn't a minor technical problem. Yes, a case solves the problem but why does Apple expect consumers to pay for this fix? The iPhone 4 is a very nice device - with the case fix - but Apple's deny-deny-deny nonsense is only harming their reputation.
15 posted on 07/14/2010 8:56:35 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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From a fanboys frantic typing to Gods ear...


18 posted on 07/14/2010 9:30:49 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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You can have my iPhone 4 after you pry it from my cold dead fingers.


26 posted on 07/14/2010 10:10:06 PM PDT by Chet 99
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I’m beginning to think that Antennagate -- the so-called scandal over the Apple (AAPL) iPhone 4’s reception issues -- has become the most ridiculous tech story of the year.

It makes perfect sense. As soon as Apple's market cap exceeded Microslut something had to be done. Surprise! Lets go Alinsky on a non-existent problem. Look at the posting history of the fanatical and hysterical anti-apple fanboys. Over the last couple weeks the quantity of posts has gone up exponentially.

I wish they would take some of that Redmond pay and make a donation to FreeRepublic.
27 posted on 07/14/2010 10:49:16 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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Rush just said the same thing in the context that nothing the media is reporting on is real... Dittos Rush!


38 posted on 07/15/2010 9:12:10 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa
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It’s not a “scandal”; it’s a defective product.

Cell phone makers should be striving to improve performance, not hide defects.


42 posted on 07/15/2010 11:29:12 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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I personally think the drop calls issue is on AT&T’s end, because everyone in my family experiences this and my husband and I have other types of phones. My kids have iphones, and my son just upgraded from the original iphone to the 4. He’s had no antenna issues.

And the camera on the new iphone is amazing.


46 posted on 07/15/2010 2:09:25 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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I keep seeing these threads. iPhone people. Anti-iPhone people. Arguments abound. Death wished upon all. Geesh, I’m tired of it. It’s like the Mac/Windows wars, squared.

I was in a place to choose recently. My wife and I both wanted iPhones. We had decided months in advance. Well, we live in the Great Wild West, and out here, AT & T sucks, to put it mildly. We wanted to stick with Verizon, so Droid was the choice. We had 7-year-old Kyocera phones, so no more waiting (like to next year and the promised iPhone for Verizon).

The problem with iPhone isn’t iPhone, it’s AT & T. It’s that simple. Almost all the complaints I see here are because the network is a POS. Duh. AT & T!


47 posted on 07/15/2010 2:19:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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