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1961 - Women weren't allowed to rent cars or fly jets or serve as police officers. ????
Fulton County Georgia School System ^ | 2010

Posted on 07/01/2010 12:18:16 PM PDT by Liberty Ship

Almost Astronauts: 13 Women Who Dared to Dream by Tanya Stone. At a time when women weren’t allowed to rent a car, play professional sports, fly jets, or serve as police officers, 13 strong women pilots sought the impossible: to be part of the Mercury 13 astronaut program in 1961. Non-Fiction. Lexile n/a.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: education; hyperbole; indoctrination; mercury; revisionisthistory; school
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To: Liberty Ship
At the bottom of the list I did see Chronicles of Narnia and Lord of the Rings.
I'll give them some credit for including those.
21 posted on 07/01/2010 1:35:48 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: esquirette

It would depend on where one applies for either a credit card or admission to law school.

I’m not familiar with Mass Brothers, but my first credit card was issued by Garfinckels in Washington DC in 1966. It could also be used at a number of other local department store chains that existed then (Woodward & Lothrup, Raleighs, Hechts, etc). Later in the 60s I got Lord & Taylor, Carte Blanche and Amex. That was long before 1982.

My husband’s former mother-in-law graduated from GW’s law school (also in DC) back in the 1930s. The Ivies didn’t admit women at all till @ 1970, so those that have law schools (other than Cornell which was always coed) would have denied women admission before then.


22 posted on 07/01/2010 1:40:56 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Did they OFFER cars for rent then? If not, NOBODY could rent them!


23 posted on 07/01/2010 1:46:29 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Liberty Ship
These claims are all hogwash.

However, in 1961 (and for some years after) it was legal to pay women less than a man for exactly the same job; jobs were listed under "men" and "women"; and it was also perfectly legal to ask married women when they planned to have children. (Housing ads in newspapers were listed under "white" and "black".)

Different times, but it is important to remember the truth of those times, and not nonsense about women not flying jets or renting cars.
24 posted on 07/01/2010 2:03:49 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: EDINVA

I would say my experience was the rule and not the exception, just based upon my own observations, few of which I remember or document. I am certainly not a crusader or angry feminist by any means. I went to law school to take care of myself in a better job than say, teaching or nursing.


25 posted on 07/01/2010 2:04:30 PM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: wintertime

I think you’d be surprised what some effort could accomplish.

Privatizing education isn’t going to happen in the foreseeable future.

The minute you assume you will lose elections is when you definitely will lose them


26 posted on 07/01/2010 2:06:00 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
I think you’d be surprised what some effort could accomplish.
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Well?...Then why not use that effort to abolish government schooling? The minute you assume you assume something is impossible then it definitely is impossible.

By the way, have you seen those videos of parents standing in long long lines waiting for the lottery for charter schools? Have you seen the crying parents and children who have lost their chance to escape the government school concentration camps? Surely, there are parents who are ripe for change.

Solution #1: Vouchers, tax credits, and charters could be used to build the infrastructure needed for full privatization. Teachers and principals would be allowed to move to charter status as has happened with Green Dot charter schools in California. Gradually the amount of the vouchers would be reduced, and parents would be expected to take on the full responsibility of educating their own children. Tax credits would fund the poorest. MASSIVE tax reductions would accompany the privatization of K-12 education.

Solution #2: Private conservative education foundations would be formed by wealthy conservatives. The foundations would offer grants to teachers willing to open one-room schools in their homes or small rented spaces. The foundations would certify the teacher, approve the curriculum, test the students, run community-wide sports and arts programs, and organize more complex science labs. The foundations would organize the parents to lobby for complete shut down of government K-12 schools and MASSIVE tax reductions.

27 posted on 07/01/2010 2:14:22 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

Nice ideas - it’s good you’ve given it some thought.

So what’s step 1?


28 posted on 07/01/2010 2:27:07 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Dr. Sivana; windcliff

LOL!


29 posted on 07/01/2010 2:58:41 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: Mears

bfl


30 posted on 07/01/2010 3:11:51 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Amberdawn
Remember, I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar" ?

In 1976, I was 8.75 months pregnant during my final exams in grad school. One male professor had a fit when I sat down to take the exam ... he made a big deal of moving me to the front of the room, right by the front door, so the "ambulance attendants" wouldn't have to disturb too much of the class if I went into labor during the exam.

Then, in 1979, my manager at work told me that the reason I didn't get paid the same as the two males in exactly the same position as mine was because they had families to support and wives who stayed home. There were witnesses in the room when he said this ... ha!

I went to the EEOC after the 1979 incident, and end up getting quite a bit of back pay, plus many of the women in the company got a raise as a result. (The company's main revenue came from Federal government contracts!)

31 posted on 07/01/2010 3:29:14 PM PDT by RightField (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: Liberty Ship
Most likely, she's talking about piloting commercial passenger jets, like 707s.

Nothing prevented a woman from getting a pilots license and flying a plane, but think back to those days. Pilots for the big commercial airlines were invariably men.

There were woman pilots in WWII, but Barbara Allen Rainey is given credit for being the first female pilot in the US military (1974) -- not even a footnote for those women thirty years before.

Similarly Emily Hanrahan Howell Warner gets credit for being the first woman hired as a pilot by a major airline (1973), even though she and other women had been flying planes for years before that.

Maybe it's not so much the political correctness that gets on people's nerves. It's the inaccuracy, the sloppy use of language and sloppy thinking, that so often goes with it.

32 posted on 07/01/2010 3:50:01 PM PDT by x
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
So what’s step 1?
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Push for very **small** voucher or tax credit programs aimed at very narrow and highly defined groups such as those in failing schools or the disabled. Then gradually broaden the definition of “failing school” or “disabled” and begin to increase the number of vouchers and charters.

Why are **small** programs necessary? Well...Look what happened in Utah. The legislature passed a sweeping voucher bill that covered all children. The NEA went nuts and managed to have a statewide referendum and had the bill repealed. ( I think the residents of that state were a little freaked by so much rapid change and also feared it would mean higher taxes.)

So...What did Utah do? It passed a very small voucher program that was not well funded aimed at the “disabled”. Of course ( wink, wink) “disabled” included reading disabilities ( nearly half the kids in the state, for whom there was not enough voucher money). Since the voucher program was poorly funded only a limited number of kids got the voucher. Utah also allowed a limited number of charters.

As a result, parents saw that some kids on their block were getting vouchers and going to great private schools and charters and their kids weren't. Now the pressure is on to **increase** the voucher funding and the number of charters. Well!...Who would’a guessed that would happen? ( wink wink) ;-)

The next step is to allow teachers to turn their government school into charters. This has happened in Los Angeles with the Green Dot charters.

Gradually, year by year, increase the amount of vouchers, tax credits, and charters.

When most children are attending private voucher schools and charters, then make all government schools charters. Then make the charters voucher schools.

At this point, it is time to gradually expect parents to take on more and more responsibility for paying for their **own** child's tuition with vouchers and tax credits for the poorest only.

In an ideal world, all education would be privately paid for by the parents and charity would pay for the poorest.

Do I think this is possible? Yep! I do!

One more thing: All sports, music, theater, and art programs should **gradually** ( little by little so as not to scare the public) be turned over to the counties departments of recreation. A lot of “rah rah” support is generated for the local school because of the sports and arts programs. The umbilical tying these programs to the government schools needs to be **CUT**!

33 posted on 07/01/2010 5:00:50 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: RightField

I’m glad to hear you fought back and won. The people who fired my mom probably thought the same about her pregnancy-That she would get hurt on the job or be unable to do her duties. She worked in a furniture store. One reason my parents had to forego a bigger house and property was because they didn’t, or wouldn’t, count my mother’s salary in considering a mortgage. My Dad still complains bitterly about this to this day.


34 posted on 07/01/2010 7:22:35 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: wintertime

Sounds very good. You obviously know a lot about it. I agree now it seems like a much more long term solution than trying to play their game.

I bet there are a thousand genuinely motivated people on this board. And we could accomplish great things if we worked together.

For so many years I’ve seen great ideas come and go, but nothing really changes, for that old cliche reason - conservatives have jobs. And a lot are even working 6 days a week. For me, I have to work 7 days a week to get the grades I want.


35 posted on 07/02/2010 1:42:45 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: RightField

In 1964, at 7 months pregnant, I was asked to take leave because they didn’t have insurance to cover pregnant women. I _could_ have had my job back. I didn’t want it. I was paid as much as the men with the same position and many of them resented that.

There was no EEOC.

I also recall that I could not get credit on my own, even though I was working. Even a store credit card depended on a co-signature from my husband and was based on his income.

I was young and we all just accepted that this was the way things were.


36 posted on 07/02/2010 5:33:54 PM PDT by reformedliberal ("If it takes a blood bath, let's get it over with." R. Reagan)
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To: wintertime

Kudos! Well said and well thought out.
There is very little reason your plan would not receive broad bipartisan support.
After all, it’s “for the children”...
;)


37 posted on 07/05/2010 11:15:08 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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