[Pharmboy]

Thanks for posting AND the ping, Palter. I had read this this morning on the WSJ site (I have a paid subscription) and would have posted it but I thought it only could be read with a subscription.

Great piece...I was actually surprised that he did not mention the final tiff between The General and Jefferson. Jefferson was the originator of the rumor that Washington was becoming senile (I believe this was 1796 or 1797); Washington had many friends, and they tipped him off about it. Washington called Jefferson in to his office, asked Jefferson about it, and TJ denied it all. Washington knew he was lying and never was in the same room with Jefferson again after that.

The RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list...

[aculeus]

Thomas Paine went a lot further in attacking Washington as his (Paine’s) alcoholism intensified.

Some guy (wink) even included Paine in his alcoholism book. See page 85 for the Paine-Washington stuff.

http://books.google.com/books?id=oqlNkz9cKlUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=vessels+of+rage&hl=en&ei=LigmTPCBGIW0lQf9vtXEAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

[SunkenCiv]

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	Gods Graves Glyphs	Thanks Pharmboy. Part of the problem was no clean drinking water, if you take my meaning. ;') All of them played important roles, and we remain permanently in their debt. But John Adams played the most important role of all, IMHO -- he was the butt who accepted the one term presidency nearly inevitable for anyone who followed The General. Adams was the perfect flawed little bitch to take that role. ;') It's worth remembering that in 1801, when Jefferson became president, the US national debt was around $100 million, about 10 times annual federal revenues. This was literally "the cost of freedom," and would correspond today to a national debt around $30 trillion. Since our actual national debt is $13+ trillion, the government is in better financial shape today than it was in Jefferson's time. And at the time, Jefferson's number one priority was paying down the national debt. So, how did he do it? How does ANY wise government ever increase its revenues? Yes, that's right! JEFFERSON REDUCED GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND CUT TAXES.-- BroJoeK Thank BroJoeK, and for that matter, thanks President Jefferson. Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution. To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
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[Gondring]

One of James Madison's greatest lines, written about Alexander Hamilton--the Switzerland of the Founding Fathers--and his neutrality push:

"Several features with the signature of [Hamilton] were [as of] late published, which have been read with singular pleasure and applause by the foreigners and degenerate citizens among us, who hate our republican government and the French Revolution."

Over and over I ponder... How different the world would be now, if a British dragoon had aimed the muzzle of his weapon mere millimeters differently and shot Alexander Hamilton at Valley Forge (Sep 18, 1777). Might we have intervened in the French Revolution? Would we have a Federal Reserve Bank problem?

That glorious tension between factions, where both sides loved America, is so different from the friction we have now.