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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2010 (Vol. 20) June 18
Free Republic | 6-18-2010 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 06/18/2010 4:59:42 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

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To: afraidfortherepublic
What is it? What are you growing?

An earth box is a soil/hyronic planter box. There is about six inches of water on the bottom and about a foot of soil on top of that. You seal off most of the top and it keeps water from evaporating and thus more water for the plants. We have ten boxes that we can place in a very sunny spot. We grow tomatoes, and squash and cucumbers in the main garden and grow basil, egg plant, green peppers, cherry tomatoes, beautiful flowers, etc in the boxes. It doulbes our garden output and uses less water. You can grow on decks with the boxes so good for condo dwellers.

341 posted on 06/25/2010 6:58:49 AM PDT by jetson
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To: texanyankee
I don't know if you can see the leaves in this picture. If you look in the lower right hand corner you will see the first plant in the bottom row looking a little droopy.

It was just dirt and a bit of sand at first so I added some top soil and manure to and then tilled it.

I put down that black ground cover and then planted them. When I am stepping between the rows the ground seems rather "lose", not firm. I am thinking about pulling up the black sheets. If you can't see the leaves too well I'll take another picture today when I get home so you can see better.


342 posted on 06/25/2010 6:59:29 AM PDT by Neets
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To: jetson

Thanks for the info.


343 posted on 06/25/2010 7:08:48 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Neets

Looks like they need water to me.


344 posted on 06/25/2010 7:10:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Neets
Part of your problem is the black plastic under the plants.
It's collecting heat and reflecting it back to the plants.
Plus, it raises the temperature of the soil under the plants.
Remove the plastic and get a hoe.
345 posted on 06/25/2010 7:14:51 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Neets

Wow, they sure do look droopy. It sounds like your soil texture should be okay.

I wonder if there is lack of drainage and the soil is too wet? You might wanna try digging down about 6” or so and feel the soil if it’s very moist or just too dry.

Being that you are in upstate NY, I wouldnt think that it’s too hot. My tomatoes are experiencing 95 degree weather righ now and i water every other day.

Other than too much or too little soil moisture, the only other thing that comes to my mind is if your soil is high in salt content. Do you have bare spots appearing in your lawn? To check that, i guess you would have to take a sample to a local county agent.

Have you checked for bugs on the plants such as aphids, etc?

I’m stumped. The leaves are all green in appearance, yet the stress is obvious with the droopy leaves.


346 posted on 06/25/2010 7:15:54 AM PDT by texanyankee
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To: Neets

Yeah, and I agree, you might ought to remove the black plastic ground cover. I dont see any need for it.


347 posted on 06/25/2010 7:17:44 AM PDT by texanyankee
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To: Neets

Maybe the plastic covering isnt allowing enough water to reach the tomato roots?


348 posted on 06/25/2010 7:19:27 AM PDT by texanyankee
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To: texanyankee

I’ll pull the black sheet out tonite and see how it goes after that. There is a LOT of direct sun back there so that makes sense that the sun is reflecting back to the plants.

It is has been VERY hot here in NY ..we are experiencing a very warm spring/summer and the rain we get is only a quick burst lasting 5 minutes or less. temps in the high 80’s and low 90’s.


349 posted on 06/25/2010 7:58:04 AM PDT by Neets
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To: Yosemitest; texanyankee

Thanks!!


350 posted on 06/25/2010 7:59:00 AM PDT by Neets
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To: Neets

Is that ground cover plastic film or is it a woven fabric that landscapers use? Your tomatoes really really need water...


351 posted on 06/25/2010 8:00:14 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: Yosemitest

LOL... the period I worked for the crop duster was during the DDT era so goodness knows what I was showered with...


352 posted on 06/25/2010 8:02:42 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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It is the landscape cover. woven.

I really give them a LOT of water everynight, or so I thought. I was afraid I was over watering them but when I look at them at 5:30 am they are looking rather perky. When I get home at 4PM they are sad and droopy. I have peppers behind them that seem to be doing well.


353 posted on 06/25/2010 8:37:56 AM PDT by Neets
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To: tubebender
DDT is a "good thing", and if you don't believe it, We need to tell the environmentalists to go to hell,
and go back to using DDT here in the states.
354 posted on 06/25/2010 9:26:27 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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Funny thing mentioning DDT. I have been cleaning out the basement storage Room about an hour a day on the days I don't have to babysit.

Anyway I found my box of DDT. We bought the last one on the shelf back in the late 60’s, to sprinkle a little underneath the sinks in our trailer.

When my husband was getting his master's in zoology, he was doing an experiment with german cockroaches, that was accidentally overturned. We tried everything to get rid of them, and nothing worked. After the DDT, they were gone, no more problem.

We probably have enough left to serve our needs and our children too when we are long gone.

355 posted on 06/25/2010 9:49:50 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Consider yourself BLESSED ... with the ability to THINK AHEAD ... !


356 posted on 06/25/2010 9:54:21 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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LOL. I do feel blessed, but I wasn’t thinking ahead so much.LOL. I just don’t like to waste anything, so we keep it till we use it up, or it’s no longer viable.LOL.


357 posted on 06/25/2010 10:17:22 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Neets

The black plastic wouldnt reflect the heat - it would soak up the heat and make the soil around the plants hotter.

Also, when you water are you watering into the soil or is the water collecting on top of the plastic?


358 posted on 06/25/2010 10:38:08 AM PDT by texanyankee
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Yea now that you say that, I have two plants that are not near the plastic sheeting so you are right...

Initially I was using a sprayer to water the plants and have just recently started setting the hose onto the ground under the sheet ...


359 posted on 06/25/2010 10:40:48 AM PDT by Neets
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To: texanyankee

I soaked the ground really well tonite. Can’t believe the difference just in a few hours.

SO you were right. They just weren’t getting enough water.

The “garden” is about 10’ long so I just laid the hose down in the middle about every 3’ and just let run for a little while.


360 posted on 06/25/2010 6:54:16 PM PDT by Neets
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