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To: OldDeckHand

There is a mechanism whereby the President can make this happen (a treaty) unilaterally and have force of law, no congress required.


10 posted on 06/15/2010 1:49:18 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: grobdriver

“There is a mechanism whereby the President can make this happen (a treaty) unilaterally and have force of law, no congress required.”

Would that be the Treaty Czar?


15 posted on 06/15/2010 1:51:02 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: grobdriver
"There is a mechanism whereby the President can make this happen (a treaty) unilaterally and have force of law, no congress required."

Treaties cannot violate the Constitution, even if ratified by whatever means. So long as we have the 5 justices that held for Heller, this is non-sense.

If the Democrats tried something like this, they'd be out of power for a generation. There's a reason that Obama has been in office for 1.5 years and not a single gun-control measure has come to the ANY committee for a vote. There is no appetite for gun control in the US, and the Dems know it.

26 posted on 06/15/2010 1:54:48 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: grobdriver

Nope, no mechanism for the president alone. That is often mistakenly said. The reality is that under “international law” all that is needed is his signature. If he signs it,, other nations consider it legal. Other nations do not consider ratification to be needed.

But that does not override the requirement that it be ratified by the senate, before it is condidered the law of the land here in the USA.


53 posted on 06/15/2010 2:08:50 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: grobdriver

The President can sign a Treaty but it has to be ratified by a 2/3 vote of the Senate to become effective and then becomes equal to highest law — not superior. Supreme Court can also rule on its application and what it takes precedent over.

Currently we are seeing administrative Executive Agreements outnumbering treaties at a pace of 20 to 1. These are less binding and can be abrogated by the next administraion.


54 posted on 06/15/2010 2:09:20 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: grobdriver
There is a mechanism whereby the President can make this happen (a treaty) unilaterally and have force of law, no congress required.

So spell it out with source and attribution.

70 posted on 06/15/2010 2:30:10 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: grobdriver

Check your Constitution, The Senate must ratify all treaties.


114 posted on 06/15/2010 11:04:16 PM PDT by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * ? * RYAN * 2012)
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To: grobdriver

There is a mechanism whereby the President can make this happen (a treaty) unilaterally and have force of law, no congress required.

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Wrong. 2/3 of the Senators present have to vote to ratify a treaty.


143 posted on 06/16/2010 9:56:45 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: grobdriver

100% incorrect.

No treaty can change the contents of the United States Constitution.


174 posted on 07/23/2010 5:45:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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