How Do We Communicate if a Melt-Down Occurs?

vanity | 6/11/10 | jobim

[jobim]

In the event that the catastrophe takes place which we all are thinking about and talking about in these days under this regime, whether it be a global financial shut-down (see this scenario: http://www.grandpappy.info/honehour.htm), a military strike somewhere, or some such dire event unleashes sudden freeze-up of our society: How do citizens communicate?

CB? Short wave? Our lifeblood is communication. What are our options to maintain this link to patriots across the country?

[MaxMax]

[KC Burke]

I am sorry about directing my frustration toward you in addressing my replies.

I just see all the purposeful destruction to our nation being done and I find myself in a state of keyboard anger at the drop of a hat.

If its broken or has a problem — they will subvert it. If it works, they will quash it to subvert communication. If it needs changes or expansion, they will use the event to establish strangling controls.

The nation’s future is hanging by a string and that string is a November sea-change. The problem is that they fight dirty and effectively with no care for the nation and they see that time table just as we do.

[Pavegunner72]

very good point HH, although I’m not sure surviving in a world without FR would be worth it. /s

[Natural Born 54]

There is also the fact that most people are not going to go out a purchase and learn to use a ham radio. I had an FCC first class license at one time (job) and family years ago had a ham radio but I am out of date now. How much does a set up cost, starting from scratch?

[ResponseAbility]

A friend of mine designed rooftop windmills for a spell years back and claimed the best minimal wind usable energy design. At that time it may have been state of the art, but I’ll bet he has been out designed by now.

[dragnet2]

Good....

Ham radio is lots of fun, and might be our only means of communication one day...Plus ya learn a lot of neat stuff......I had to go through the code deal and learn 15 words code per minute to get the General....Never thought I'd do it, but did. Then some years later, they drop the code requirement.....lol

[TomGuy]

With astute planning, why wouldn’t it be possible to continue to use the internet by working within a restricted system.

It would depend on exactly what was down, etc.

If Internet connections were still available, communication could take several non-web forms, including p2p (peer to peer), smtp (email) and usenet. [As dependent as even businesses and cities are on the Internet, I don't see how it would be shut down, unless there was complete breakdown of civil order. Then, post-apocalyptic survival-of-the-ones with the biggest guns would probably prevail.]

If the Internet were completely down, but landline phones were still operational, many would restart those old BBS (bulletin board systems) which connected computers via modems.

[jobim]

This has been a wonderfully informative thread.

I found my local amateur radio club president and had a chat. He directed me to the national field test day June 26/27 where operators simulate a national emergency by gathering at sites across the country gather, hook up impromptu towers, and attempt to link with as many operators as possible in a 24 hour period.

Go to: http://www.arrl.org/field-day for location nearest you.

ARRL Field Day is June 26-27, 2010 ARRL Field Day is the largest on-the-air operating event in Amateur Radio. It draws tens of thousands to the airwaves each year, bringing new and experienced hams together for a weekend of fun!

The president of the club here said after an earthquake a few years ago, it was the ham guys who made the cracks in the community hospital known, and helped direct the evacuation (Hawaii). I believe patriots need to learn this technology as it looks to be a crucial tool in our War for Independence 2010.

[Verbosus]

Read “The Second After” and you’ll be thinking of many
such questions.

[Nam Vet]

I'm no artist.

How about....

KEEP OUT ! !! !!

TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT ! !! !!

SURVIVORS WILL BE SHOT AGAIN! !! !!

Nam Vet

[Natural Born 54]

“Some people believe that armed citizens don’t stand a chance against an army, especially one as powerful as USA. This is the BS lie all governments around the world want you to believe, but the reality is very different.

If every block in the country, USA for example, has a dozen men with fire arms, the one that doesn’t stand a chance is the military force. It’s the perfect guerrilla setup, and a general’s worst nightmare.

You can’t nuke or level every block. You can’t arrest the entire country. The “fighters” are already armed, fed, spread out, integrated and infiltrated into the military and government branches. It’s impossible to win.”

Fernando Ferfal Aguirre (SURVIVING THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE)

Chin up, KC.

[montag813]

We have Sat phones. Make sure to construct a decent Faraday cage as well, and stockpile gas.

[Gator113]

I’m excited about it. We like to travel around in our country and I can see me set up in our Airstream playing with it all over the place. I’m glad they dropped the the code requirement, but I still might try it for fun.

[fretzer]

Here are two very nice amateur tranceivers which are available in kit form (some assembly required):

Elecraft

[pyx]

The NorCal 40A is a fantastic QRP rig. It has had some great write-ups.

Currently, I'm spoiled and somewhat partial to theYaesu FT-897D. It's a very portable unit and can operate in QRP as well. It's a sort of one unit does it all, so to speak. :) Micro QRP rigs are startng to feature SMT and that stuff is way too small for my eyes and old hands.

[dragnet2]

Code is fun.....Believe it or not, code is addicting and many amateur radio operators never use a microphone...In addition, code can get through during bad conditions over and above voice commo.

[dragnet2]

The NorCal 40A is a fantastic QRP rig.

You bet...Those little radios are really a kick, and can talk to the world on little power

[dragnet2]

Senators propose granting president emergency Internet power

cnet ^ | 06/11/2010 | declan mcclugagh A new U.S. Senate bill would grant the president far-reaching emergency powers to seize control of or even shut down portions of the Internet. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2532575/posts

[pyx]

Sound like an antennae design geeks dream project to me, provided the limitations can be overcome.

Ah the perfect magnetic loop antenna ... Nirvana is just around the corner ... or not. :)

[dragnet2]

Not much..Maybe a couple hundred bucks with a nice used radio like a Kenwood TS-520...Google it...You can make your own long wire copper antenna for maybe 20 bucks or less.