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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Often the real value in these daily threads is not what we see in the headlines, but what lies underneath them or buried in the sidebars. This was the case in the May 29 thread in which on the second page there was an article the really peaked my interest. It was titled “POLISH ‘BLACK BOOK’ BEING ISSUED HERE”. In this publication that was to run in the June edition of “The Monthly Future” was to be accounts of the atrocities committed on the Poles by the Germans in the 9 months of war thus far. Also, I felt it may also give some insight into the condition for not just the Poles, but for the Jews of Poland who have yet to fully feel the Nazi wrath. I felt this was worth looking for not only to sate my own quest to get a better perspective of what general knowledge of the Nazi horrors were available to the common man at this time, but also to get some feel for the interpretation of the free Poles to what was happening in their occupied country. Some research showed me that the Immigration History Research Center at the University of Minnesota maintains an archive of issues of “The Monthly Future”. An inquiry to them on this specific issue resulted in a correspondence that led to them sending me a pdf copy of “The Black Book of Poland” from that June issue. I felt compelled to share my perspective of reading these 19 pages of information with the rest of you who have been following and participating in this project. Again, I want to thank the staff of the Immigration History Research Center for providing me with this document.

Needless to say, this is a pro-Poland publication and just as a side effect of that I’ve tried to think of the bias that may present itself just due to that fact. So I will qualify these first numbers I give as not readily confirmable and perhaps even bias against Germany. But that said there are still two major points that need to be focused on here. First, is that these numbers, from an historical perspective, do not appear to be outlandishly skewed, and second the point is that this was the information that Americans received at the time on the matter. Right or wrong, this was some of the information that they had to work with to form their opinions.

The toll of the German Campaign on Poland in these first 9 months has been costly in lives and materials in the Polish frontier with the following statistics on the carnage:


17 posted on 06/11/2010 8:35:02 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (In order to dream of the future, we need to remember the past. - Bartov)
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To: CougarGA7
The Soviets were just a brutal to the Poles

I always remember the scene in the movie "Europa, Europa" where a group of Jewish and Gentile Poles are crossing the river to escape the advancing Nazis, when they see some boats heading towards them alerting them that the Soviets have invaded and are headed towards them. The gentiles immediately turn around and head back towards the Germans, while the Jews continue Eastward. So at least it shows the Poles were more fearful of the Russians than the Germans, or as General Anders put it, "With the Nazis we lose our lives, with the Soviets, we lose our souls."

27 posted on 06/11/2010 11:24:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: CougarGA7
quoting "the oath taken by the Polish force in France":

In the end, Germans paid a relatively small price for the tens of millions of deaths they caused.

34 posted on 06/12/2010 5:04:51 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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