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The Apple WWDC Keynote Address Notes—iPhone4 announced—iPhoneOS is dead, iOS4 new name
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Posted on 06/07/2010 12:00:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Gun142
Otherwise, new iPhone compares to the Incredible. I’m looking at rooting my Droid to overclock and get a few other things but I might wait until I’m closer to an upgrade.

Not from my reading of the specs or reviews.

"Another somewhat major issue that we struggled with on the Incredible (just as we did on the Nexus One) was the awful screen visibility in bright daylight. We had numerous occasions where we simply could not answer a call or take a picture due to the AMOLED display's poor showing outdoors. In overcast settings (such as the one above) it was usually bearable, and If you crank the brightness all the way up on sunnier days you can get some visibility, though once you're outside and can't see the display, that's a bit of a challenge. In all honesty, we love certain aspects of these screens, but we're perplexed as to why HTC continues to use this same display when it's clear the daylight performance is hamstrung."—Endgadget Review, April 19, 2010
The other major complaint they voiced was the non-lifelike color reproduction the AMOLED screen was producing... with to Orangey reds and and other colors that were not true to reality.

It should also be noted spec wise, that the Incredible's screen's resolution is only 480x800. While best in class at the release of the Incredible, that does not compare to the iPhone4's 960 x 640, Also the Incredible's 8GB of internal RAM that can store Apps is dwarfed by the iPhone's 16 and 32GB capacity to store apps. The iPhone 4 now comes with a Gyroscopic chip that can sense motion and acceleration in six directions instead of the three that the older 3Gs and the Droids do. It is a step further up the technological ladder.

One other thing the Droids have that the iPhone's don't... Malware. The Droids already have Droid Bots running and sending spam because instead of being pro-active, Google is only "reactive" in removing malware from the Android store, responding only after the fact of users' reports that a particular software has installed trojans, spyware, and bots on their phones, before removing the offending apps from availability... and that doesn't even begin to address the problem because users can install malware from other sources as well.

You tell use you are already thinking of "rooting" your phone... which will make it even more vulnerable to invasion by malware. good luck on that being a safe thing to do.

41 posted on 06/07/2010 2:20:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!Apple could simply require that any iPho)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Everybody gets a new iOS when it's released.

Did you catch that they figured out how to tell the bean counters how to pound sand on requiring that iPod touch owners had to pay for upgrades on the OS? The iPod touch owners are gonna get it free as well now...

42 posted on 06/07/2010 2:24:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!Apple could simply require that any iPho)
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To: stripes1776
Some things are just too funny.


43 posted on 06/07/2010 2:55:54 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Swordmaker

iOS4 a phone I can read and use without glasses, and this is what they give me... ;’)


44 posted on 06/07/2010 2:56:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: mnehring
Some things are just too funny.

The only reason I don't have an iPhone is because of all the complains about AT&T. But I think AT&T is simply overwhelmed by the amount of data being downloaded.

I thought I read on a blog somewhere that the new iPhone had a mirco-sim slot. Can any one confirm this? If so, there may be other carriers available in the near future.

45 posted on 06/07/2010 4:23:44 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: stripes1776

I think the AT&T network is the #1 fail point of the iPhone and everyone knows it but it is whispered around Jobs. That’s why the crowd cheered when someone in the audience yelled “try Verizon” during the fail episode.


46 posted on 06/07/2010 4:25:29 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Gun142

My friend with a Droid is saying that his phone does “strange things” like crashing apps when there is an incoming call, spontaneous resetting of ring tones, page “turns” when there wasn’t a finger near the screen, etc. Are you having similar issues?

Gonna have to toss in my BBerry soon and just can’t make up my mind between Droid and iPhone.


47 posted on 06/07/2010 4:33:08 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Swordmaker

Will the “old” iPhone 3GS be able to upgrade to iOS4? And if so, when?


48 posted on 06/07/2010 5:39:16 PM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Mad-Margaret

Yes, June 21st.


49 posted on 06/07/2010 8:43:52 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: antiRepublicrat

Apparently, much of the problem came from people running ad hoc networks and EVDO Wifi hotspots like MiFi and the Sprint Overdrive.


50 posted on 06/07/2010 8:51:32 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: stripes1776
I thought I read on a blog somewhere that the new iPhone had a mirco-sim slot. Can any one confirm this? If so, there may be other carriers available in the near future.

All iPhones have a micro-simcard slot...

51 posted on 06/07/2010 9:50:03 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!Apple could simply require that any iPho)
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To: Mad-Margaret
Will the “old” iPhone 3GS be able to upgrade to iOS4? And if so, when?

The 3G and 3Gs will upgrade to iOS4 on the 21st of June for free. Not all functions will be available.

52 posted on 06/07/2010 9:52:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!Apple could simply require that any iPho)
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"Just crossed $1 billion paid to developers (70% of App Store revenue goes to devs).
 " Wow. Apple takes a 30% cut??? WTF?! I can write software for many other platforms without another company taking 30%.
53 posted on 06/07/2010 9:55:56 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Swordmaker
All iPhones have a micro-simcard slot...

Thank you for confirming that. For some reason Apple does not list the micro-simcard slot on the tech specs page of the iPhone4. Why would that be?

54 posted on 06/07/2010 10:25:28 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: stripes1776
Thank you for confirming that. For some reason Apple does not list the micro-simcard slot on the tech specs page of the iPhone4. Why would that be?

Because it is not useful for anything aside from its use with the network carriers... You change the sim cards when you change carriers. In Europe, and other countries where there are multiple carriers, it is useful... because an unlocked iPhone can use multiple simcards to change between carriers. In the US, where there is only one official carrier, that's not useful.

55 posted on 06/07/2010 11:03:53 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!Apple could simply require that any iPho)
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To: CodeToad
Apple takes a 30% cut??? WTF?! I can write software for many other platforms without another company taking 30%.

Did you notice this from the keynote?

Theo Gray, Wolfram Associates, email to Steve: "I earned more on sales of The Elements for iPad in the first day than from 5 years of Google ads on periodic table.com."


The App store draws millions of eyeballs. Everyone on there has a CC on file with Apple and can buy with one click. The 30% seems reasonable for distribution and resale of the product, especially considering how successfully Apple moves products.

56 posted on 06/07/2010 11:17:17 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Swordmaker
Because it is not useful for anything aside from its use with the network carriers... You change the sim cards when you change carriers. In Europe, and other countries where there are multiple carriers, it is useful... because an unlocked iPhone can use multiple simcards to change between carriers. In the US, where there is only one official carrier, that's not useful.

But if I travel to Europe, would an iPhone I bought here be useful with another simcard that I buy in Europe?

57 posted on 06/07/2010 11:25:12 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: CodeToad
"Just crossed $1 billion paid to developers (70% of App Store revenue goes to devs).
 " Wow. Apple takes a 30% cut??? WTF?! I can write software for many other platforms without another company taking 30%.

No, you can't. You have to provide overhead, sales costs, marketing, advertising, and other expenses... which will cost you far more than 30%. When Apple first introduced the App store, every other retailer said they would lose their shirt with such a high return to the developers...

58 posted on 06/08/2010 12:10:43 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!Apple could simply require that any iPho)
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To: stripes1776
But if I travel to Europe, would an iPhone I bought here be useful with another simcard that I buy in Europe?

Yes... you can have it unlocked and get simcards for other carriers...

59 posted on 06/08/2010 12:13:11 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!Apple could simply require that any iPho)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m gonna need an iPad to read all that ... whew!


60 posted on 06/08/2010 12:50:34 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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