Posted on 06/02/2010 2:10:17 PM PDT by stefanbatory
.45ACP, for when you really don’t want them to get back up.
Two shotguns, two 22’s and a 243. definitely option no.1.
Before I settled on 1911s, I brought home a variety of weapons (most of which I still have), and the question was,
"Another gun?"
My answer was, "I am doing my part to keep them off the street."
Now, whenever I bring home another 1911 she can't tell them apart so she doesn't even ask.
The same will work for Glocks and other firearm families with similar patterns.
The .22, the 20 gage and the .243 are all useful but I don’t see too many 16 gage shotguns out there any more. Ammo might be hard to come by for the 16. Look at the guns with an eye towards how they have been maintained. Some abuse is obvious like rust and damaged exterior. The condition of the barrel is a little trickier but you can tell a lot by looking down the barrel and checking for pitting and corrosion. Cycle the action and make sure it works properly. If you can, you should fire them to be sure the firing pin is OK and the gun feeds and ejects properly. Some signs of use are OK (scratches on the stock, bluing not perfect etc) but signs of abuse should nix the deal.
Go to Gunbroker.com and Auctionarms.com
Get an account (won’t cost you anything, but can’t do search of past sales otherwise).
Look at sales on those particular guns (matching grade and condition) over the last 90 days. That is a great indicator of what you can get if you want to sell them online. Check the rules before doing so, or send me a private message and I’ll give you the information.
I forgot to mention, if the 10.4 is an Italian Vetterli it is worth $100-400 depending on the condition.
If its a Swiss Vetterli it is worth a bit more.
If it is a Mauser, send me a message, I’ll give you my number, and we can talk.
“Thanx. I think I’m late for premarital counselling so I better go.”
Hmmm. Makes me wonder what you want the gun for! [VBG]
*smiles*
The Vetterli will be highly problematic where ammo is concerned.
Option 1 is the best bet. Plus, if that 16 gauge Remington 1100 is in good condition you should be able to trade it for a 12 gauge 870 or similar to make ammo easier to find. Although during the recent ammo shortage when 12 ga buckshot and slugs were scarce I bought up all the 16 gauge I could find, usually at 3-4 year old prices because it had been sitting around.
Rotflmfao!
I’d go the Vetterli, if that is in fact what it is. The others are rather commonplace. But I like military bolt rifles myself.
ok, I figured out what the guy was saying. He would be willing to trade out of those five he had listed in option 1. the 10.4 was apparently some sort of text speak that i didn’t understand that means 10-4. as in CB radio 10-4. Also from text #2, it would seem that all of these guns are rather well outfitted.
As for my possible uses - I would like to someday take up hog hunting and even maybe deer hunting for those scrawny little deer that grow here in Florida. There is also the home defense aspect that I would like to consider. My 30.06 is not currently suited to home defense so that leaves the bayonet and that gets messy sometimes.
as I stated in my post directly above, I figured out the 10.4 business. Sadly, it isn’t the Vetterli. :(
And thank you all for sharing your wisdom in a matter such as this!
The 20 ga with either Buckshot or slugs will do fine for that. Same goes for any self defense issues. The .30-06 will handle most anything else on the north American continent. It's got so many loads available from .17 sabot up to 300gr solids you could actually take anything from rabbit up to and including Grizzly. I say again, you need a good handgun in a defensive caliber: 9mm or my preference in a 45acp. In a pinch the 45 is good for defense against more than two legged CRITTERS.
Looking around, you should be able to find a 20 ga. Mossberg for $100, a Marlin .22 for $50, a Mossberg .22 for less than that, a Remington 742 .243 for $350, and a Remington 1100 16 ga. for $300. Given the nature of this collection, I’d be willing to bet that the guns are old and not in exceptionally good condition.
The 742 ceased production in 1987. Nice gun, but ask yourself what kind of condition do you expect for a rifle that is at least 23 years old, and very sensitive to maintenance issues?
A large part of the Mossberg’s reputation is the fact that you can beat it half to death and it still works. Owing to this reputation, lots of Mossbergs get beaten half to death by hunters who buy them as working tools. I’d expect its condition to be not very good.
The 1100 16 ga. is another potential oldster. It was replaced by the 1187 in 1987 (hence the 87) and the 16 ga. is a dying chambering. It most likely has a fixed choke, and the availability of loads is nowhere near that of the 12 ga. If you want to use it strictly to hunt field game, it’s fine, but specialty loads for waterfowl and turkey may be a problem. They did make a few runs of 16 ga. 1100s in last decade, but you still face ammunition issues.
The Mossberg 702 is a $200 gun when new. You’re not buying a new one. The Marlin is another inexpensive rifle that was made to be used. They typically had birch stocks with the Mar-Shield finish. This finish is an epoxy. If scratched, it can’t be repaired, and you really don’t want to try to remove it. I speak from experience.
The Vetterli is an antique. I’m no expert on them, but I’m also not aware of any that were made for scope mounts. If it’s a 10.4 mm, the ammunition is collectible. The whole thing makes me wonder - why is this person willing to trade a $1650 rifle, with ammunition that can be worth $100 a box, for a $750 car? Sounds fishy.
Check the guns in the first deal. If they’re clean and they suit your needs, it’s a fun deal. I would expect to have to gut the 742 and the 1100 to clean out the old oil. If the Marlin is a semi-auto, it’ll need the same treatment. It will involve several hours’ work.
If they’re all scratched up, the gun store probably offered the guy $400 for the lot.
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