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Traffic Ticket - Failure to Wear Seatbelt When you are - $147
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Posted on 05/28/2010 8:36:22 AM PDT by dila813

Just now, got a ticket when I and all my passengers had seat belts on.

I had a gray shirt and a gray seat belt. The Cop insists that he saw it hanging down.

Everyone in my car knows I was wearing a seat belt but they are all minors.

I will go to court and fight this, but what the heck.


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Since they can stop anyone now for not wearing a seat belt and I got a ticket even though I was wearing one.

The cop actually advised me that he couldn't have stopped me if I had tinted windows.

What the heck?

Something is wrong this seatbelt law.

1 posted on 05/28/2010 8:36:23 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

Fight it.


2 posted on 05/28/2010 8:37:59 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: dila813

You should have told him you are an illegal immigrant,then the laws don’t apply.


3 posted on 05/28/2010 8:39:11 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: dila813
Make sure your witnesses are available to go with you to court, or give a notarized affidavit
4 posted on 05/28/2010 8:39:27 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: dila813

We can stop people suspected of not wearing a seat belt even though it’s basically your word and your passengers word against the cop’s, but we can’t ask people to produce papers proving they’re in the country legally, even though that can be proven or dis-proven with documentation.


5 posted on 05/28/2010 8:40:18 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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How fast were you traveling ?
How fast was the officer moving when he hit the radar button ?
When was the last time his eyes were examined ?
What is his eyeglass correction ?
What evidence does he have that his eyesight is perfect at the combined speed ?

Get a lawyer. You can beat this.
Shove it down his throat.

6 posted on 05/28/2010 8:40:26 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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This is our corrupt Government at work. They make terrible laws that can be selectively enforced and since any corrupt law enforcement agent will never be overturned by the corrupt judiciary, then we all become the serfs they want.

Big ego trips for the low IQ class. Exactly what commies are.

7 posted on 05/28/2010 8:41:04 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: dila813

Aaaah, the long arm of the city revenue enhancement dept.
But seriously, law enforcement will be out in force for the holiday weekend thru Monday.


8 posted on 05/28/2010 8:42:40 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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End of the month; he’s light on his quota.


9 posted on 05/28/2010 8:44:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Take five different pictures of yourself from 30 feet or so from the car with the same shirt,belt etc. Four with the seat belt on the other without. Ask the cop in court which is the photo without the seatbelt.


10 posted on 05/28/2010 8:44:20 AM PDT by Timocrat
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To: dila813

It is like a game of monopoly. You just play by the rules and usually you do ok. It is not about right or wrong, moral or immoral. It is about generic laws that have statistical results, and individuals sometimes get chewed up in the gears. But it is rarely something REALLY painful.

Heck, in some parts of California the fine for not coming to a complete stop before a free right turn is over $500. And some of those fines are assessed by traffic light cameras. I’ve seen some where there is NO traffic and the car comes extremely close to a full stop, but they got the ticket. A human cop would consider the circumstances, but the machine does not. And I saw several cases where the camera was actually proven wrong.

You got by with less than $150 and if you were to fight it with the evidence at hand, you could probably win in court.

It’s a game. I just pay the stupid fine and am glad I landed on Baltic place with no buildings rather than Park place with a hotel. If a cop followed me around for a month and just wrote down infractions, I’d owe tens of thousands by the end of the month, so I consider the one ticket or so a year a good thing. ;)


11 posted on 05/28/2010 8:44:24 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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Reb, what exactly does this have to do with the birth certificate? ;)


12 posted on 05/28/2010 8:45:21 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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“fines” are the new revenue source for local governments. They are now tacking on all kinds of “Fees” as well. a $150.00 ticket can easily turn into $400.00 to $500.00.


13 posted on 05/28/2010 8:45:45 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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I have been thinking of making a seat belt holder that attaches to the door post and looks like a fastened shoulder/seat belt.

Think that will sell?


14 posted on 05/28/2010 8:46:58 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Plug da fence!)
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To: dila813

Another control issue for local govt. People are suffering so now is the time to kick them when they are down by taking more of their money. Ticketing citizens is a nationwide trend.


15 posted on 05/28/2010 8:47:07 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: dila813
The police have become roving revenue collectors. It is not about the law and protecting the citizenry. It is about how much revenue each officer can bring in. The municipality also knows that it is difficult and expensive to challenge a ticket so many people will simply pay even if they are not guilty. If you intend to fight this, ask for all records concerning this officer as well as the cruiser video camera record. You might have to do this under FOIA or an open records law.

I assume that not wearing a seat belt is a primary offense in your state. Verify the legal citation listed on your ticket and any other pertinent information, such as a description of where, when and weather conditions at the time of the alleged offense. You also might check on the admissibility of statements from minors as evidence, also. Their statements might be critical.

16 posted on 05/28/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: dila813

Click it or ticket. My saying is they can stick it up their -—. This weekend I need to travel from California back to Colorado.

For Colorado, for the past 14 years, the legislature always had a bill to make the enforcement primary or in other words, no reason needed such as another violation before they write you for seatbelt.


17 posted on 05/28/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Kaslin

Can a minor do that?

Also, I have great pictures that show with the clothing I have you can’t tell.

I have one with and one without a seat belt

They look identical.


18 posted on 05/28/2010 8:49:32 AM PDT by dila813
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Ain’t it GREAT to live in a formerly free country??!!


19 posted on 05/28/2010 8:50:02 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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He is the same cop by chance that refused to arrest illegals that stole my bike


20 posted on 05/28/2010 8:50:48 AM PDT by dila813
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