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Physicist unmasks 99-year-old mistake in English dictionaries
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Posted on 05/11/2010 9:03:35 AM PDT by Gomez

An Australian physics prof has discovered a 99-year-old error in the Oxford English Dictionary - repeated in most dictionaries worldwide - and is having it corrected.

The error is in the definition of the noun "siphon", a tube used to draw fluid from a higher location to a lower one - as when emptying a vehicle fuel tank, an aquarium or other vessel difficult to empty by other means.

Liquid is, of course, drawn up the shorter limb of the siphon by the weight of that in the longer downward one: thus the operating force is gravity. However most dictionaries follow the OED in stating that atmospheric pressure drives the process.*

Dr Stephen Hughes of Queensland University of Technology noted the error after visiting a massive siphon project in South Australia which was being used to transfer gigalitres of water into a depleted lake.

On returning, the prof decided to write an article about the siphon for use by school science teachers, and discovered to his dismay that most dictionaries described the process wrongly.

"An extensive check of online and offline dictionaries did not reveal a single dictionary that correctly referred to gravity being the operative force in a siphon," grumbled the physicist.

The OED currently says:

A pipe or tube of glass, metal or other material, bent so that one leg is longer than the other, and used for drawing off liquids by means of atmospheric pressure, which forces the liquid up the shorter leg and over the bend in the pipe.

"The OED entry for siphon dates from 1911 and was written by editors who were not scientists," explained Margot Charlton of the Dictionary's staff. Amazingly, it seems that in 99 years nobody had ever queried the definition.

The next edition of the OED will be corrected.

According to Hughes some encyclopaedias - though not the Encyclopaedia Britannica - repeat the error. The doc has written a paper with more detail on siphons which the interested can read here.

Bootnote

*This may be true during the process of starting the siphon off, which is usually done by creating a temporary suction on the outflow end of the pipe so as to draw fluid up and over the hump. This works by the action of atmospheric pressure on the surface in the to-be-emptied vessel: but once the siphon is flowing this force is countered by atmospheric pressure at the other end of the pipe.


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1 posted on 05/11/2010 9:03:35 AM PDT by Gomez
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To: Gomez
Gravity or Atmospheric Pressure?

The government right now is siphoning off huge amounts of job creating capital from the private sector into government coffers to fund an unbalanced budget. The government is a black hole. I therefore vote with the professor and go with gravity.

2 posted on 05/11/2010 9:07:29 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Gomez

Thanks, I can sleep now.


3 posted on 05/11/2010 9:07:37 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: Gomez
I disagree and believe the original definition is correct.

Gravity causes liquid in the lower leg to fall, lowering the pressure above it, causing atmospheric pressure to force liquid from the reservoir up into the shorter leg.

The longer leg of liquid causes a continuous “sucking” on the column of liquid above the shorter leg.

4 posted on 05/11/2010 9:10:47 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Gomez

So the dictionary has been describing a toilet??


5 posted on 05/11/2010 9:11:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Yo-Yo
Right. A siphon will not work in vacuum, it takes external atmospheric pressure to push the liquid up the shorter leg.
Gravity and atmosphere will keep the process going, once it started.
6 posted on 05/11/2010 9:17:30 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: mlocher

For those who must siphon a liquid using a hose, if you don’t want the fluid about to be siphoned getting in your mouth, fill the hose with water, first, then make a crimp near the end about to be placed in the target liquid and empty that short section of the hose, plug the other end so the water remains in the hose from the crimp to the plug; push the short length into the target liquid then release the plug ... gravity will pull the water out, creating a suction of the target liquid which will flow through the vacated hose where a suction vacuum has been created.


7 posted on 05/11/2010 9:18:17 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Gomez

Sure, but what’s the definition of “is”?


8 posted on 05/11/2010 9:20:44 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Yo-Yo
The original dictionary definition is incorrect (incomplete), and Prof. Hughes definition is also incorrect (incomplete).

Your explanation is, in fact, the correct description of the process. Gravity causes the liquid in the long end of the tube to fall, which creates a pressure differential along the length of the tube, which atmospheric pressure on the to-be-emptied liquid attempts to "correct".

9 posted on 05/11/2010 9:21:03 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: Yo-Yo

You’re right. The power of the siphon is limited to the amount of atmospheric pressure in which it’s operated, i.e. about 14.7 psi at sea level.


10 posted on 05/11/2010 9:21:10 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: MHGinTN

Pass the hose to your friend and let him do it....because he’s just been standing there telling YOU how to do it....


11 posted on 05/11/2010 9:21:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Palter

Me too!

It’s kept me sleepless for years.


12 posted on 05/11/2010 9:22:55 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: BitWielder1

Are you sure siphons don’t work in a vacuum?


13 posted on 05/11/2010 9:23:11 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Gomez

FreeRepublic has the correct answer to ANY question.


14 posted on 05/11/2010 9:24:41 AM PDT by refreshed
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To: Sacajaweau

When you show this technique to children, they see it as magic! Place the hose in the target liquid so that the hose fills. Then plug the end through which you want liquid to run and pull that end out and place it lower than the liquid to be siphoned. Release the plug and watch the eyes light up on the children ... works every time!


15 posted on 05/11/2010 9:25:43 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Where do you find children who are so easy to amuse?


16 posted on 05/11/2010 9:29:37 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: MHGinTN

Or you can get an ingeneous device called a jiggle siphon. Basically, the end you put in the higher tank has a wide spot that has a ball inside it that acts like a check valve. If you jiggle the hose a few times, it will let liquid into the tube, but not let it back out. After a few jiggles, there will be enough liquid in the tube to go over the U, start falling, and thus pulling vaccuum.

Walla, easiest way on the planet to drain a 5 gallon gas tank.


17 posted on 05/11/2010 9:29:53 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: James C. Bennett
Yes. Look at how an old-fashioned mercury barometer works.
It is the external pressure that pushes the mercury up the column.
Without external pressure, the vacuum inside the tube can't pull the mercury up, it is the *difference* between external end internal pressure that does it.

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Barometer
http://www.ask.com/wiki/Siphon
18 posted on 05/11/2010 9:30:53 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Gomez

Who gives a crap and who uses a syphon?


19 posted on 05/11/2010 9:31:34 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: BitWielder1
A siphon will not work in vacuum...

Incorrect. It's all gravity. Water seeks its own level, and if the longer leg of the siphon is below the surface of the standing liquid, the siphon will flow. Atmospheric pressure has nothing to do with it (it does, though, for the short term one might suck on the siphon to get it started).

As an aside, this word has been horribly misused by the media recently, claiming oil would be "siphoned" from the containment dome over the oil leak in the Gulf. "Pumped" is the word that is correct.

20 posted on 05/11/2010 9:33:16 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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