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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yawn, not this crap again. Yes EMP is an issue but not the doomsday weapon. Ask yourself with all the nuclear testing that went on for years why didn’t stop the world? The Soviets did above ground and high altitude tests, we did above ground tests and not planes crashed etc.


20 posted on 05/04/2010 5:25:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I think if an EMP of that size were detonated anywhere on the planet the ripple effect would more than likely take out the idiots who set it off also.


29 posted on 05/04/2010 5:31:42 AM PDT by sniper63 (Bang,Bang, Maxwell's Silver hammer........)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Yawn, not this crap again. Yes EMP is an issue but not the doomsday weapon. Ask yourself with all the nuclear testing that went on for years why didn’t stop the world? The Soviets did above ground and high altitude tests, we did above ground tests and not planes crashed etc.”

I’m not a nuclear scientist, and I don’t play one on TV, but the reason nuclear testing didn’t destroy much via EMP is because there wasn’t much to destroy in the places where testing was done, the atmosphere tends to damp out EMP, as does the nuclear byproducts of a thermonuclear explosion.

Our electronics are far more vulnerable now than they were back when the Soviets were testing their bombs, and if a small atomic bomb, not a multi-stage thermonuclear device, would indeed generate a large EMP if detonated 200-300 miles above the atmosphere over an intended target. At that altitude the EMP footprint on the ground would be about 3000 miles in diameter.


31 posted on 05/04/2010 5:34:29 AM PDT by Bean Counter (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office -- Aesop)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You need to gain a deeper understanding of how the EMP pulses are generated. There’s some real science and physics behind it.

Underground tests rapidly attenuate Gamma rays, and the EMP effects are VERY localized.

Atmospheric tests (say 10,000 feet and below) DID screw up the power grid in Hawaii (there’s citations for this, but I am in a hurry). Atmospheric testing by the good guys ceased a LONG time ago.

BUT the REAL EMP pulses are generated as a result of extra-atmospheric detonation of a powerful/ high gamma ray-producing nuke. Without getting deep into the Compton effect, suffice it to say a detonation in near space energizes the atmosphere in such a way that two pulses (first one short duration, second one longer duration) of hi energy EMF hit the atmosphere but do not pass nap of the earth/ line of sight.

You are unwise to pooh pooh EMP. It is real and would absolutely WRECK our power grid of long lines (essentially perfect antennae for the EMF of the pulses.)

Recent testing has hinted (via modeling and small scale testing) has indicated that modern electronics might not be as susceptible as feared, but there would be no power grid to supply them. You car might run, but no power to pumps etc etc etc.

NET: a successful EMP attack WOULD send us back to the 18th century. And we don;t generally have the skills, tools or infrastructure to survive.

Also learn about EMF shielding and grounding. Called Faraday cages, it’s quite simple to shield and ground important devices. Space blankets and copper wire can shield a parked vehicle. Be prepared if you so desire.

Truly, read One Second After and Patriots and also Rawles TEOTWAWKI book.


71 posted on 05/04/2010 5:57:12 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Yawn, not this crap again. Yes EMP is an issue but not the doomsday weapon. Ask yourself with all the nuclear testing that went on for years why didn’t stop the world? The Soviets did above ground and high altitude tests, we did above ground tests and not planes crashed etc.

EMP will kill all life in this and every other galaxy.

You don't want to mess with EMP.

EMP causes all matter to simply convert to energy, and immediately makes the energy dissipate to entropy.

Then things start getting tough.

91 posted on 05/04/2010 6:07:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: mad_as_he$$
yep...way to overhyped...but you cant stop a mob once they get all worked up...
131 posted on 05/04/2010 6:33:30 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: mad_as_he$$
The effective "footprint" for EMP is actually quite small per device. The effect weakens as the device altitude is increased to widen the footprint diameter.

There is some very good science complied on this and gamma burst would be your immediate concern, followed by Iodone 131 isotope being absorbed by the thyroid.

It will take a lot of device detonantions to impact the entire country enough to cause "One Second After" level effects.

133 posted on 05/04/2010 6:34:50 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: mad_as_he$$

That is true, but to be a devil’s advocate- no one blew one up high over the center of the other nation. We did one near Hawaii.


149 posted on 05/04/2010 6:42:43 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

The last above ground nuclear test took place in 1980...before the advent of the silicon chip and solid-state electronics that permeate every aspect of society. I don’t know the validity of the threat due to EMP, but I am, at least...curious and cautiously concerned.


176 posted on 05/04/2010 7:03:10 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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