If this crew did it, I'm sure I can make it. It might be worth it just to see the look on the faces of all those idiots 'jawing' on thier cell phones in traffic, oh would I love to see the lights go out on their inane conversations ...
Posted on 05/04/2010 5:12:37 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There is renewed alarm about the possibility of an EMP attack – electromagnetic pulse – on the United States because of Iran's work on a multi-stage Space Launch Vehicle, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.
And experts forecast if such an attack were a success, it effectively could throw the U.S. back into an age of agriculture.
"Within a year of that attack, nine out of 10 Americans would be dead, because we can't support a population of the present size in urban centers and the like without electricity," said Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy. "And that is exactly what I believe the Iranians are working towards."
A recent launch of an SLV by Iran has sparked renewed concern of an attack that could send an electromagnetic pulse powerful enough to wipe out computer controls for systems on which society has come to rely, officials say.
As the G2 Bulletin reported last week, Ronald Burgess, director of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, revealed that Iran successfully launched a multi-stage SLV, the Simorgh. The device ultimately could be equipped with a nuclear bomb, which the U.S. intelligence community assesses Iran is developing.
Officials also report Iran has been testing detonation of its nuclear-capable missiles by remote control while still in high-altitude flight...
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
“I suspect the people who will die first are the ones who need life supporting medications like ‘insulin’.”
The next to go will be the people waiting in line at the post office waiting for their government check.
How will you produce the pumps without electricity? And even if you could, how would you be able to distribute them?
We get some mighty hot and humid summers here in Michigan as well. I hate listening to the A/C run so I don’t even bother to turn it on unless it gets into the 90s.
I grew up poor so I know how to keep a house fairly cool for most of the day without A/C.
Reporting from the deep south here...the basement at my house stays pretty cool throughout the summer...I’d just move down there. And if that got too hot...I’d move to the 1950’s fall out shelter 30 feet below that which stays almost wintery year round.
Problem solved.
So basically, liberals would not survive while conservatives would. I wonder if the deceased democrats would still be allowed to vote...
The equipment used to monitor atomic testing was protected from EMP by the use of Faraday Cages. It is a relatively simple way of shielding sensitive electronics. Much more about this and good info on doing this to your home and other items can be found at http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/emp_and_faraday_cages.htm
The time to do it is NOW.
I am having my terrorists use two EMP Bombs in the novel I am trying to write (actually completed, just going through the re-writes). EMP’s make fine small scale attack weapons. No where near what is being portrayed.
It would take a massive nuclear attack to affect the whole country. That is, an all out attack by a nuclear superpower. If are your going through all that trouble, you might as use the bombs correctly, closer to the ground and as a weapon of mass destruction.
I bought a small surplus Swiss Army hand water pump a month or so back. It doesn’t pump a lot of water but you could compare it to what you get out of a garden hose.
I tried it out and put it in the garage to forget about it.
so why aren’t we doing this to Iran right-friggin-now?
At the very least it will prove a major distraction if they have to deal with 74 million people and no electricity. Should slow things down quite a bit for the bomb makers.
Tubes/triodes/ vacuum tubes have ALWAYS been resistant to EMP, moreso than solid state transistors and printed circuits. I have read some recent work (from modeling and small scale testing) that indicate modern ASICs and even consumer automotive electronics might survive and EMP.
The weak point are the long lines of the power grid and general unshielded electronics that control it.
Your diesel tractor might indeed start and run quite well. But where do you get the next 50 gallon drum for the farm?
A US without electrical power collapses rapidly.
EMP *IS* a wide area effect, but it is also line of sight. A 50,000’ detonation would not do the trick. You gotta be higher up. But indeed the line of sight effect would span most of a continent. Sure the inverse square rule applies, but with nuclear devices you have power to spare.
Dismiss EMP and its societal effects at your own risk.
About 15 years ago, I lived through a tornado/windshear event in July in Ohio.
No power for a couple dozen or so miles from us. No gasoline, no banking, almost all stores closed *, no restaurants, no water (we had wells with electric pumps), no electronic deposits, thus no paychecks.
*the only stores open were the local family owned hardware store and convenience-type store. The hardware store escorted trusted longtime customers through with flashlights, and payment was expected in cash. The convenience store only opened their doors to locals that they knew. They were eager to get rid of perishables before they spoiled (eggs, frozen foods, dairy produce, etc). If they knew you, and you didn’t have cash, they would allow you to take your merchandise but sign the back of the receipt, promising to pay once things were normal again. They never lost a cent.
This occurred in beautiful Geauga County Ohio. An upper middle class, leave the doors unlocked kind of town. There were no crime matters at all.
That said, it was a very tense time. This situation lasted a week. I won’t ever forget it, nor will my son. Until you have been through one of these, you just don’t realize how hard it is.
My sweetie is in Chicago, northside. I’ve told him this story a hundred times. And despite being the widowed father of four, he simply refuses to believe anything bad like this could happen, no matter how much I try to convince him that it surely can.
What is it they say, denial is a river in Egypt?
meh
Excellent book, and very sobering when you consider the technical expert(s) he had assisting on the hard science side of things.
“Just boil the water! Sheesh!”
Sounds simple, but not for everyone. We had power outages in TN this weekend. Not long, and no problems, but it got us considering what we’d do in a long-term crisis. The house we just bought has an electric stove. Might change it to gas. (The “Farmers Co-Op” has a great wood cookstove like Grandpa had which could come in handy.) The FP is gas, but with an electric starter. Might change it to woodburning. Heat is gas, but thermostats are electrical.
I guess you just have to think Little House On The Prairie.
>>The pulse hits every tractor sitting in a barn in America.
Crops take a while to grow. Hit us in the Fall after most crops are harvested and we’d be in big trouble.
The tractor won’t do you much good with 5F temps and snow on the ground. And in places where it will do you good, people will be moving into your area to escape the cold, chewing up resources and bringing more thugs along with them.
90% might be high, but it would be pretty bad if the EMP were widespread.
I’m in Florida. No basement, but we have plenty of cool spots and 15 five-gallon water jugs. I’ll be safe. can’t say the same of my neighbors.
I've got a copy on my HD. Good book. Realistic scenarios with real info in it.
Wouldn't be all that hard to manually pump the gas out of the underground tanks. Assuming you have a working vehicle in which to put the gas.
There was a reality show that had this kind of scenario. “The Colony” on Discovery. Interesting even if a bit scripted at times.
http://offgridsurvival.com/the-colony/
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