Posted on 05/02/2010 9:32:05 PM PDT by txnuke
“How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.” -- Ronald Reagan
This article is a vanity (self-composed, not a news article) in response to a question on another thread:
"... something is really bothering me. When have these marxists ever taken a good look at their ideology? When have they ever presented a justified explanation for marxism, even to themselves?"
Socialists are true believers. They have alot of faith. Until they become party leaders. By then they are "in too deep" to ever get out. There a backs to be scratched, hands to be washed, deals to be made....
All the while they long for the passion of their early love.
A little background: I graduated from HS in 1981, thought I was a hippie born too late. Older sisters who indoctrinated me in all things liberal. Joined the US Navy and got married and became rather conservative (GRIN).
Now a displaced Texan living in the socialist state of California. I deal with socialist thinking from my co-workers on a daily basis, serious and tongue-in-cheek, needling and inane. It can be intellectually grounded or simple incredulity at my opposition. Because I work in an industry with lots of ex-military, there are also lots of conservatives.
All that being said, I believe the "Social Justice" ideas are alluring to many. They still think that government can right wrongs, regulate fairly, and promote the common welfare. Many things said by conservatives are discounted 100 percent, written off as propaganda. Thus, they never have to regard ideas that are counter to their own.
Oh, what is the word for the doctrine preached by Rev Wright among others, Liberation Gospel or something? I think there is still some people who believe that the common man needs to be rescued from evil capitalists. Union issues are addressed daily at my workplace. I am a beneficiary of previously negotiated union contracts. I see some value in a union, but I can certainly see how they affect the bottom line, too. Good workers are not happy with those who skate along doing nothing. (I have been told that I am not a good "union brother" for criticizing others like that.)
Many of my co-workers have a "hardening of the attitudes", in my opinion. I feel privelaged to have been a company man who now sees some value in unions. It has never bothered me that my perspectives can change with life experiences.
Finally, 2/3 of my olders sisters still feel strongly that Obama has in mind what's best for Obama. I --like you-- don't fully understand that! They are both wealthy family-oriented professionals and genuinely nice people.
I have talked with one of those 2 who voted for Obama (having had a more distant relationship with the other one). And I can say that she and her husband care about people and have given of their own time and money to help out a family member who was on the skids. They gave more than he deserved, to the point of being taken-advantage-of, to the point of enabling. Looking back, they may regret some things, but probably feel that they did their best.
I guess you could say that we have a political class, an entire generation of enablers. I was not expecting to arrive at this conclusion but there it is, surprise!
I have 5 adult children who sometimes need help, sometimes deserve it, sometimes want it. Those are very different things and I deal with each of them differently. (I foresee perhaps that one of them might never get any "cash" help from me for the rest of their life.) As you might imagine, I battle regularly with NOT ENABLING my kids. So from that point of view, I guess I understand those who are well-intentioned.
From what I hear, the first people to be casualties in a genuine Marxist revolution are the idealists in the country who helped bring it about. This is from ex-KGB sources via radio and print news. They say that in a small country somewhere in Latin America or Africa, they had lists of communist sympathizers who were cooperating. These would be the first people to object to the new totalitarian regime once it came about because "that's not what was supposed to happen". And they would be the most dangerous opponents during the early instability.
SO there is my theory for whatever it is worth.
Please feel free to reply, comment, whatever.
I always look for the lobotomy scar.
yuri bezmenov ftw
Black liberation theology. It is a twist on liberation theology, but both are marxist in their core.
One question, right off the top of my head - how old were you when you had your children? And how old are they now?
That is a great interview as he spelled out how they work.
those old interviews are our “red pill”
of course socialists don’t think.it is the emotions that are important to them.
Damn! Same story except I gradutated in 84 and joined the Air Force.
I see some value in a union, but I can certainly see how they affect the bottom line, too. Good workers are not happy with those who skate along doing nothing. (I have been told that I am not a good "union brother" for criticizing others like that.)
There's a "AFL-CIO Temple of Labor" in my city. Is this a national phenomenom or is my town the only one so cursed?
Yes, it is an interesting problem. How can so many hypothetically intelligent people run blindly down a path to a false utopia that creates so much human misery, often their own? There are three theories of which I am aware.
1) The “Babylonian model,” which posits there are cynical “insiders” who are no more than selfish brutes who use utopian theories on naive “outsiders” to create a disposable slave class for their own pleasure and use.
2) The “Antichrist model,” which posits that no one can be that stupid unless a supernatural blindness prevents them from seeing the harm their false utopia will do until too late they realize they have been pawns of apocalyptic evil.
3) Wayne’s Theorem. Everyone is stupid. Deal with it. Wayne was a coworker of mine, a long time ago.
Which position do I take? Let me think .... still thinking ... I’ll get back to you on that.
“And I can say that she and her husband care about people and have given of their own time and money to help out a family member who was on the skids.”
This is the way it’s supposed to work, people giving voluntarily from their hearts, not having the fruits of their labor stolen from them and redistributed by government.
There is no such thing as a classless society. In the America we love we have the opportunity to choose to a very great extent where we fit in the hierarchy. In socialist/communist countries there are two inherent classes, those in government leadership roles, and those being dictated to.
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