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Put blame on owner, not the dog
toledoblade ^ | May 01, 2010 | Anne Boyle

Posted on 05/01/2010 8:30:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono

Dogs described as "pit bulls" attacked two people recently, one an 11-year-old girl ("Passer-by helps teen attacked by dog in Toledo," April 16; "•'Pit bull' shot after attacking girl, officer," April 19). Not to diminish the seriousness of these attacks, but blame the owners.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; jpb; pitbull
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To: Salamander; shibumi

There’s more on the Undead Thread.


81 posted on 05/02/2010 4:03:01 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: TexasCajun

They’d certainly be able to tell by the extent of damage and DNA residue.

[not to gross people out, but due to “the wonders of canine anatomy” (ick!) male dogs “tie” with the object of their “affection” and are physically unable to extricate themselves and the average tie lasts at least 15 minutes]


82 posted on 05/02/2010 4:06:25 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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To: Darksheare

The pit was very polite.

My Dobermann would’ve peed on it in his usual “Mine” sort of way.


83 posted on 05/02/2010 4:15:00 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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To: Salamander

LOL, yeah.

Fritz Brindle would have sniffed it, then tried to lay down on it.


84 posted on 05/02/2010 4:17:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: wardaddy

My Wonder Dobe was a Hoytt.

He was THE smartest dog I’ve ~ever~ known.

In 1975, he cost $1200 because in a 10 generation pedigree, 75% of the names were printed in red.
Ebonaire/Damasyn/Warlock/Steb’s/Rancho Dobes/Liquorish/etc etc etc champions.

[but *I* got him free]....:)

It’s been 25 years since he left me and I still grieve.

There can never be another him....but Odin’s carving his name on my heart quite deeply already...:)


85 posted on 05/02/2010 4:21:32 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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To: mom4melody

The real truth is...

Is your pit capable of KILLING those babies, and are you WILLING to take the chance that it won’t?

It’s your call!


86 posted on 05/02/2010 4:31:17 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: wardaddy

Odin started lifting his leg at 4 months.

What a “precocious” little joy *that* was.....:-\

In the Dobermann forum I’m a member of, the general consensus is that *no* dog truly develops a real guarding instinct until about 1 year of age.

They may *look* like they’re “guarding” but odds are it’s really more of a fear response rather than true protecting.

8 months is *still* very much a puppy.

Odin won’t truly be an “adult” until he’s 18 months old so we’re only half way there and developing his character at a steady but not “pushing” pace.

He may be 29+” and 90 pounds, but he’s still a puppy with a puppy’s mind.

Some people make the mistake of forgetting that.

Wild canids are not expected to “Grow up!” until their mother has the ~next~ year’s litter.


87 posted on 05/02/2010 4:31:23 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“...men who need these dogs have problems with their own manhood.”

Oh, dear Lord.

~Another~ projectionist.

This place is starting to look like a Cineplex.

[do men who like Yorkies have ‘Venus envy’?]

;]


88 posted on 05/02/2010 4:36:40 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Go to the Westminster KC site and watch the AmStaff breed judging results video.

I didn’t see any SWAT teams standing at the ready.


89 posted on 05/02/2010 4:39:33 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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To: Darksheare

We’re not really the “Undead” type...just...cryptically inclined.

:)


90 posted on 05/02/2010 4:41:29 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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To: Darksheare

It did look awfully soft and comfy.


91 posted on 05/02/2010 4:42:16 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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To: Salamander

Over at the Undead Thread, we write, read, and post bizarre stuff.
Sometimess we do come out with the cryptically inclined stuff.


92 posted on 05/02/2010 4:42:40 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: Salamander

Oh yeah.
Fritz was an Aussie Shepherd, and like Daz [who belonged to a friend whom we pitied] was dumber than a post.
-A dog that is negative integer intelligent is a destructive force to be reckoned with. Couple same dog with a rock hard head, and the very doors of your home are subject to being knocked apart because said dog doesn’t put the brakes on in time to stop before putting his head through the door-


93 posted on 05/02/2010 4:45:47 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: Salamander

Right? I mean, I’m still trying to figure this out...70 years of show breeding and they still consider the AmStaff unstable? What are they even basing this on?


94 posted on 05/02/2010 4:58:16 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: Salamander; shibumi
“...men who need these dogs have problems with their own manhood.”

Yes...these freudian archetypes really do get tiresome. At least the imagery of a princess kissing a frog has been updated to incorporate the hippo...


95 posted on 05/02/2010 5:18:49 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Randy Larsen

Big dogs are always “capable”....but I’m more willing to bet on the mauling the idiot would get that would dare enter my yard and try to hurt the kids.


96 posted on 05/02/2010 5:19:55 PM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Darksheare

And *why* was I not notified of the existence of this thread?!?


97 posted on 05/02/2010 5:21:20 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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To: goat granny; LongElegantLegs

“But at least a Rotty is a beautifully configured dog”

Funny since they both originated from the same Mastiff breed.

Shave a Rott and glue its tail back on and you’ve got a tall Pit.

[and a Dobe’s bite strength is twice that of a Pit...what say ye now?]

FWIW, the only dog the *ever* bit me was a Border Collie.

I was 9 years old.

[it didn’t make the news and all that came of it was that I had to get a tetanus shot]


98 posted on 05/02/2010 5:28:15 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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To: LongElegantLegs

‘The working dogs, and the show dogs.”

Same with Dobes.
The DPCA -intentionally- “diluted” the breed after the 40s to the point where, out of all those I’ve owned, only *3* were “workers”.

The rest were beautiful, smart, trainable, lovable, loyal and noble...but I had to protect *them*....:)

Thankfully, Euro blood lines are being imported and Schutzhund competition is the “new thing” that’s very old.

Eastern European Dobes are not even allowed to breed unless at *least* one of the parents has Sch degree or other working title.

Their breed standard is -much- stricter, as well.
NO white allowed, NO missing teeth [the AKC allows -4-!] and some countries absolutely do not allow fawns.


99 posted on 05/02/2010 5:42:07 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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To: LongElegantLegs

“What are they even basing this on?”

I’d guess they’re free-basing, myself.

;]


100 posted on 05/02/2010 5:45:31 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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