Posted on 04/29/2010 9:19:06 AM PDT by EveningStar
“Bob [Dylan] is not authentic at all. He’s a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I.” — Joni Mitchell, Los Angeles Times, April 22, 2010
Caterwauling Canuck “folk singer” Joni Mitchell got just about everybody riled up with that sweet morsel of self-serving insight, but the real shock is not that Mitchell is absolutely correct but that someone finally came out and said it. After decades of carefully manicured deification by Columbia Records, brain-dead rock critics and the slimy elite institution that elevated such barely able snake-oil salesmen as Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger to celestial heights, it’s high time to flout indoctrination and examine Dylan’s track record as a Grade-A phony.
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They're both widely recognized as legends...as they should be.They should both chill out.
Never was a fan, but after hearing “Hurricane” I learned to dislike him a great deal
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That you think at least three of his more recent albums were “uniformly excellent” makes me question your judgment as far as what musical excellence entails. If you had suggested two or three songs that you thought were excellent, I would have been inclined to take your word for it and check them out.
I have no problem with Joni voicing her stuped opinions. She’s written all of 7 decent songs in her career and is bitter no one cares about her anymore.
But this author, whoever he is, is an ignorant little bitch who couldn’t find his ass with bothe hands.
A phony what? He is what he is, like him or don't.
I read the book Hotel California last year about the Laurel Hill crowd, Geffen, etc. The stuff about Mitchel is actually very interesting.
She’s probably the reason CSN could not stay together.
I like Dylan too. I would rather be waterboarded than listen to Joni Mitchell.
I don’t understand the “phony” label. Like him or not, who cares? I don’t particularly like his music, so i don’t buy it or listen to it. Did he “fake” selling millions of records? Does he “fake” selling-out concert venues? Nobody is forced to listen to him.
Bruce Springsteen is liberal piece o’ crap. I hate everything he personally stands for. However, I love alot of his music. It sounds good and I like to listen to his old albums like Nebraska, Darkness on the Edge of Town, The River...etc.
I understand plenty of people probably hate his music. That’s fine. I hate rap music.
But it doesn’t make him a phony. Same with Dylan.
I once infuriated a pretentious fellow graphics hack by remarking that he was a very good copyist - which is frequently a most valuable ability in production graphics - after he congratulated himself on a bit of (un)original work. After he sputtered an ad hominem attack on me, I told him that except for Leonardo DaVinci and the guy who painted the bulls at Lascaux,* we were all copyists.
It failed to mollify him, and he treated me like a mortal enemy from that day forth.
Mr. niteowl77
*Yes, it was simplistic, but what the hell.
BUMP what you said. Good post.
The guy is a great songwriter and a lousy performer.
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Every time I’ve seen him, he has put on a fine show. I’ve been lucky I guess to miss his ‘I’m pi$$ed off’ shows.
But my mom was right there with the Great Folk Scare in the early 60’s when I was but a toddler (born in 58), so his voice is exactly as I’d want it to be (cuz that’s how I’ve always heard it).
I wonder if ratting on Dylan made the OLD BAG happy !!
After a while it gets SAD to watch these old fools trying to sing their old hippie anti-war songs “in tune” !!
It might make for good entertainment at the nursing homes ...but enough is enough already !!
Give it up Mitchell ....move on with your life, your hippie days are over already !!
Not much of a fan of Dylan....Like a Rolling Stone and Knocking on Heavens Door are the only ones I cared for. Of course they are also the only ones that come to mind!!
I’m almost 52, and a musician as well.
I’ve never understood why people did NOT like Dylan.
Here is the thing though, I’m not wrong. And there are a lot of people who will back up that all of those albums are uniformly excellent. Love & Theft has one of the highest scores of all time on Metacritic for instance. However, they all received very good reviews and sold well (for the current music sales climate).
If you only want a few songs from his recent catalogue that are good, Love Sick, Not Dark Yet, Things Have Changed, Mississippi, High Water (For Charley Patton), Honest With Me, Red River Shore, Thunder on the Mountain, Workingman’s Blues #2, Beyond Here Lies Nothin’, and If You Ever Go to Houston. Although I love listening to all of his recent albums all the way through.
Never liked either one of them; neither can sing like Otis Redding or David Ruffin, too nasally.
“Blood on the Tracks” I have that album. A couple of great songs on it. I remember seeing a TV special celebrating Bob’s 50th birthday. There were a lot of stars performing his songs. Then Bob came on to sing. He was so drunk/drugged that he could hardly stand up.
LOL.
I love Dylan. He is awesome.
He could sing in tune when he started.
He can sing in tune now, when he wants.
The a-tonal droning was always a put-on.
They’re both widely recognized as legends...as they should be.They should both chill out.
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To the best of my knowledge, Joni is the only one talking.
Dylan, I would think, is LOL. He knows he is standing on the shoulders of giants, he completely gets it, at least if one is believing him when he speaks.
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