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So long, nerds! Syfy doesn’t need you
MSNBC ^ | April 27, 2010 | Ree Hines

Posted on 04/29/2010 9:01:41 AM PDT by EveningStar

...Ultimately “SmackDown” marks the devolving of the network for a sweet, sweet slice of that 18-to-34 male demographic that sponsors love so much. That means money...

After all, the problem isn’t simply Syfy’s addition of wrestling to its lineup. The network inexplicably welcomed wrestling years ago with “Extreme Championship Wrestling” and more recently with “WWE NXT,” but bringing the bigger budget “Friday Night SmackDown” to the schedule marks a shift in priorities...

(Excerpt) Read more at today.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: prowrestling; sciencefiction; scifi; syfy
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To: Lazamataz; OneWingedShark

Add to that much mining equipment can be repurposed as weapons. We even developed nukes for mining.


21 posted on 04/29/2010 9:21:58 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: mnehring

More laughs than Comedy Central!


22 posted on 04/29/2010 9:22:25 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: IYAS9YAS
I like Eureka - no word on its return.

July 9, 2010.

23 posted on 04/29/2010 9:22:38 AM PDT by Dunstan McShane
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To: chris37

Actually most of Syfy’s Saturday night movies aren’t coming out of Hollywood, they’re coming out of the Czech Republic and other former Soviet bloc countries.


24 posted on 04/29/2010 9:23:33 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: EveningStar
Yes, like it or not, all those shows now occupying prime-time nerd night [Friday night], what was once the beloved “Battlestar Galactica’s” place of honor, will shuffle off to Tuesday to make room for the new two-hour block of bikini-clad men. “Stargate Universe,” “Sanctuary” and “Battlestar Galactica” prequel “Caprica” — some of Syfy’s best current content to make a date-free Friday night seem worthwhile — must simply make way for the guys with the big guns.

It’s as if the core audience, the sci-fi buffs that made the network a success to begin with, just don’t matter any more. It’s their programming that gets pushed aside. They’re the ones expected to alter their longtime viewing habits for the sake of the “Wrestlemania”-loving crowd. No one asked “SmackDown” to make a change.

Ping for later

25 posted on 04/29/2010 9:24:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: EveningStar

When it started I had great hopes for SyFy, but I was quickly disappointed. It hand great potential, but is clearly run by people who not only don’t enjoy sci-fi, but couldn’t care less for it!

So many shows they could have picked-up (Firefly, John Doe, Brimestone, etc.)and some they could have reimgined (Alien Nation for one, hell they had an excellent show when they brought on Jim Butcher’s ‘The Dresden Files’ but didn’t stay behind it. The could have run a program much like the one I think the Discovery Channel has done and combined classic scifi movies and the real science behind them. A late night schedule were they would simalcast the radio program ‘Coast to Coast with George Noory’ and then follow-up with a ‘Adult Swim’like line-up of scifi cartoons. They could have brought back old shows for kids like ‘Fireball XL Five, Super Car’. They could have done all of this instead of running lame wrestling and even lamer made for SyFy movies, but no they turned the network over to people with no knowledge or interest in Science Fiction.


26 posted on 04/29/2010 9:28:04 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: discostu; Ingtar; Dunstan McShane
Thanks for the update on Eureka. It's been a little while since I looked.

Glad to see it back.

27 posted on 04/29/2010 9:32:58 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: EveningStar; All

TV, as the Automobile, is dead. Stop paying for it.

All of these channels are just cloned conglomerations of their neighbors.

We didn’t see this coming ? The meme of the 90s was “MTV doesn’t play music anymore... at all”. it’s now 2010 and the song still remains the same.

After being the joke of Television, they STILL didn’t change their venue. They don’t care about viewers, they care about ad revenue.


28 posted on 04/29/2010 9:35:02 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

Also, can we add an “Idiocracy” tag to the new postings ?


29 posted on 04/29/2010 9:35:36 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Alex Murphy

>>> It’s as if the core audience, the sci-fi buffs that made the network a success to begin with, just don’t matter any more. It’s their programming that gets pushed aside.

One by one each of the niche networks have fallen into this pattern. MTV and VH1 from music channels to mook reality show networks, The Learning Channel to freaky families, Bravo from foreign films and fine arts to gay lifestyles, History channel to lifestyles of modern Alaskan blue collar workers, etc.

A rush to the lowest common denominator, which is apparently where the ratings are. I liked each of those listed networks when they filled their original programming niche. But the networks have chosen a new audience.


30 posted on 04/29/2010 9:35:38 AM PDT by tlb
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To: IYAS9YAS

‘Enjoyed BSG, but couldn’t get over the fact that though the cylons destroyed all but 35,000 humans, they still called the humans violent and blamed the humans for all that was bad.”

So that is what libs realy are CYLONS!!!!!


31 posted on 04/29/2010 9:36:24 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Celerity

32 posted on 04/29/2010 9:36:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: discostu

Wow, I would have thought that people outside of Hollywood would be a little more creative, but apparently not.

I cannot even watch 5 minutes of syfy movies, and I love sci-fi/ horror/ monsters/ bad movies.


33 posted on 04/29/2010 9:38:32 AM PDT by chris37
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To: discostu

Eureka was on Fridays anyway.


34 posted on 04/29/2010 9:39:06 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Lazamataz

>>Much less ones that could destroy, with ease, the “state of the art” semi-warships of a hundred or so years in the past.
>
>Take a ship from the 1940s. Put it against a ship of the 1840s. Simple defensive weapons would crush it.
>
>Take a ship from 2010. Put it against a ship from 1910. Simple defensive weapons would crush it.

But my point wasn’t about any ship, it was about specific ships. What would happen to, say, a modern tanker if it went up against a 1910 battle-ship?

Here’s some 1910 era battleship info:
http://www.cityofart.net/bship/michigan.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_class_battleship_%281910%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Vergniaud_%281910%29

Here’s modern tankers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_Large_Crude_Carrier

Consider that the battleships were equipped with things like: multiple 200+ and 300+ guns and armor designed for battle.
Consider, also, maneuverability. The simple physics are going to favor the smaller vessels for work-to-movement ratios.


35 posted on 04/29/2010 9:39:40 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: mnehring

36 posted on 04/29/2010 9:39:56 AM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: greatplains

Yeah, but Comedy Central is bringing back Futurama with new episodes so I will at least be watching those. The rest of their lineup can bite my shiny metal ass.


37 posted on 04/29/2010 9:41:57 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Kartographer

Picking up shows from other networks is a complicated expensive proposition. You’ve got to buy the rights and hope you can get the creative staff. Dresden Files was fun but it didn’t get good ratings, and Butcher hated what they did to it, though it got him a lot of new fans so he’s kind of mellowed.

Syfy has never really managed to get their feet under them, not managing to pull the revenue stream to make the full change from antique reruns to all original like the other cable channels. They keep trying, and they’re getting closer, but the numbers just haven’t been there for him, they’re only averaging 1.2 million viewers their money pool is pretty shallow. Also keep in mind they’ve changed owners 4 or 5 times, and all the owners seem to have had a clear vision for the channel which was vastly different than the previous owners.


38 posted on 04/29/2010 9:43:28 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: chris37

They’re plenty creative, but most of the creativity is in how to get an hour and a half of stuff on film for about $50. Those places are incredibly cheap to film in, but cheap comes at a price.


39 posted on 04/29/2010 9:46:02 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: RJS1950

It was on Tuesdays before, but the real reason the Friday thing matters is that now with this announcement Fridays will have their WWE show, not sure how that will impact Eureka and Haven both of which are supposed to show up on Friday July 9.


40 posted on 04/29/2010 9:47:36 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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