Posted on 04/26/2010 1:40:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker
One more thing,
“The facts that are relevant in the California law are not in dispute by anyone.”
Really, I would bet that there are at least two people that dispute the facts. By definition, your statement is just silly.
Almost as silly as me responding to it, I think this thread has run its course. Good luck FRiend.
Really, I would bet that there are at least two people that dispute the facts. By definition, your statement is just silly.
Sorry to tell you... but the guy who paid $5,000 for the lost property is not disputing the facts ... LOL ...
In fact, what he did was actually report (i.e., what he wrote about it) is the fact that it was lost and that he paid $5,000 for it ... :-) ... hoo-boy!
Apple did not look at it. As far as anyone knows, Gizmodo says that the finder called Apple tech support and said he found a funny looking iPhone. He was told he probably had a Chinese knock off by a tech support guy who knew nothing about a missing prototype. He said OK... and hung up. If it happened as described, I don't believe that qualifies as a proper "due diligence" attempt. Despite that, if he failed to locate the owner on his own, he is required to then turn the found object over to the authorities, fill out a found property report, and allow them to attempt to return it to its owner. If after a period of 90 days, it goes unclaimed by the owner, the finder can claim the object.
I have a prototype of the Apple mouse. It says on it Apple Computer, Inc. 1 infinite Loop, Palo Alto, CA, Prototype. a model number, and Not for Sale. I purchased it from Apple itself. Apple DOES mark their prototypes as what they are.
It's called "field testing" and it is done all the time. And it is required before a product is released. There is no reason why one should question what it was doing out in the field. It was being tested by an Apple engineer in real world conditions.
Make that Cupertino, CA... not Palo Alto... sheesh...
Make that Cupertino, CA... not Palo Alto... sheesh...
Well...
I believe that Jobs; the DA and the Police are wrong here.
Sorry.
Does anything good come out of California?
“There is no reason why one should question what it was doing out in the field.”
LOL, That is the job of the defense attorney, and should it should also be considered by the D.A. before charges are fired.
Speaking of spelling, filed. LOL.
LOL, That is the job of the defense attorney, and should it should also be considered by the D.A. before charges are fired.
So..., your car is parked in the seedy part of town, you go into your company's warehouse and then go back out and it's gone. You report it stolen, they find the car and the guy who took it (and he sold it already, by the way, but he says he tried to find the owner before he sold it ... LOL ...)...
BUT, the DA wonders why the car was parked in the seedy part of town... and if he doesn't get a reason that is satisfactory to him... he's not going to prosecute the guy for stealing your car ... LOL ... Besides, the DA notes that the guy did try to find the owner first, before he sold it to the chop shop... :-)
Is this the type of thinking that passes for "having brain cells" on Free Republic? .... LOL ...
I wouldn’t have posted the pics, I’d have kept the freakin’ phone. Y’know, just to try it out. And for safekeeping. Just until I tracked down the manufacturer.
Just remember, the original “Internet Worm” was a Unix Program.
Just remember, the original Internet Worm was a Unix Program.
Ummm... so you're saying that Apple is using that UNIX from 1988? ... :-)
Just remember, the original Internet Worm was a Unix Program.
Well, it is based on Unix, and it is closed source...
;)
Well, it is based on Unix, and it is closed source...
Well, the Macintosh computer actually runs on UNIX.
AND, it's not based on it -- it is UNIX (certified). Mac OS X Leopard receives UNIX 03 certification (from 2007, forward)
The UNIX 03 certification means that Leopard conforms to the Single UNIX Specification Version 3 (SUS), a specification for how things like the shell, compiler, C APIs, and so on should work. [ ... ] This latest news marks Leopard as the first BSD-based OS to receive the UNIX 03 certification, which is quite an impressive feat, and also adds Apple to a very short list of official UNIX 03 OS vendors (IBM, Sun, and HP being the others).
The fact that Apple can use the UNIX name more freely is cool, but the certification will have a far bigger impact on enterprise customers. Any software written for the SUS specification is easily portable to a UNIX 03 operating system, meaning that enterprise customers who need a "real" UNIX for their applications can now use Leopard servers if they so desire. Leopard's certification also gives developers another option for a development platforms, which could translate into some extra Mac sales. Things like the GUI may not be portable, but any code written according to the specification should be. This would make the UNIX 03 certification a big draw for developers and enterprise customers alike, by providing another (perhaps cheaper) option for developing and running UNIX applications.
IN ADDITION ... see the Open Group Register of Products for Mac OS X Version 10.5 Leopard on Intel-based Macintosh computers, and Mac OS X Version 10.6 Snow Leopard on Intel-based Macintosh.
And you can see that Apple makes its UNIX certified "engine" open source for anyone to examine ...
As the first major computer company to make Open Source development a key part of its ongoing software strategy, Apple remains committed to the Open Source development model. Major components of Mac OS X, including the UNIX core, are made available under Apples Open Source license, allowing developers and students to view source code, learn from it and submit suggestions and modifications. In addition, Apple uses software created by the Open Source community, such as the HTML rendering engine for Safari, and returns its enhancements to the community.
Apple believes that using Open Source methodology makes Mac OS X a more robust, secure operating system, as its core components have been subjected to the crucible of peer review for decades. Any problems found with this software can be immediately identified and fixed by Apple and the Open Source community.
Apple was the first major computer company to make Open Source development a key part of its software strategy, and continues to both use and release significant quantities of open source software.
Bonjour
Bonjour, also known as zero-configuration networking, enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on IP networks using industry standard IP protocols. It is a key component of Apple applications (e.g., iTunes, iPhoto), services (e.g., MobileMe) and devices (e.g., Apple TV, and Airport). Developers can easily leverage Bonjour from both Mac OS X and iPhone OS.
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Source Code
Bonjour is not only based on open Internet standards, our implementation is available as Open Source under the Apache 2.0 license. It is built into most modern printers and many other consumer products.
Windows
Bonjour is also available for Windows, both as an end-user tool for printer discovery and an SDK allowing developers to distribute Bonjour as part of their application.
Java
Mac OS X comes complete with a fully configured and ready-to-use standard Java environment for running Java Applets through the Safari browser, or for development with the complete Java Development Kit (JDK). Nothing to download, it all just works when you crack the lid of a new Mac, and Java is regularly updated as part of Apples Software Update. With support from popular open source IDEs such as Eclipse or NetBeans, the Mac is a great platform for running and developing Java applications.
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Unix
The most widely-sold UNIX operating system, Mac OS X combines a fully-conformant UNIX foundation with the richness and usability of the Macintosh interface. View
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WebKit
WebKit is the open source web browser engine at the heart of Apple's Safari web browser on Mac, Windows, and iPhone OS. It also provides a system-level framework engine that powers Dashboard, Mail, and many other Mac OS X applications.
As it stands, I'm of the opinion that Ada is an excellent choice for OS development, the language itself has constructs that map DIRECTLY to the some of the challenges that are being addressed right now, notably concurrency/multi-proccessors.
The UNIX Operating System:
Mature, Standardized and State-of-the-ArtExecutive Summary
Is it possible for an Information Technology [IT] product to be both mature and state-of-the-art at the same time? In the case of the UNIX® system, the answer is an unqualified "Yes." The UNIX system has continued to develop over the past twenty-five years. In millions of installations running on nearly every hardware platform made, the UNIX system has earned its reputation for stability and scalability. Over the years, UNIX system suppliers have steadily assimilated new technologies so that UNIX systems today provide more functionality as any other operating system.
Perhaps the key to the continuing growth of the UNIX system is the free-market demands placed upon suppliers who produce and support software built to open standards. The "open systems" approach is in bold contrast to other operating environments that lock in their customers with resultant high switching costs. UNIX system suppliers, on the other hand, must constantly provide the highest quality systems in order to retain their customers. Those who become dissatisfied with one UNIX system implementation retain the ability to easily move to another UNIX system implementation.
The continuing success of the UNIX system should come as no surprise. No other operating environment enjoys the support of every major system supplier. Mention the UNIX system and IT professionals immediately think not only of the operating system itself, but also of the large family of application software that the UNIX system supports. In the IT marketplace, the UNIX system has been the catalyst for sweeping changes that have empowered consumers to seek the best-of-breed without the arbitrary constraints imposed by proprietary environments.
In a nutshell then, the UNIX system is the users' and suppliers' operating environment of choice. The UNIX system represents the best collective efforts of competing suppliers, the most refined standards in the public domain, and the rock-solid stability that comes from years of quality assurance testing, mission-critical use, and refinement.
This white paper examines the UNIX system with a special concern for both its extraordinary past and its equally extraordinary prospects for the future.
The UNIX System
The UNIX system has been around for a long time, and many people may remember it as it existed in the previous decades. Many IT professionals who encountered UNIX systems in the past found it uncompromising. While its power was impressive, its command-line interface required technical competence, its syntax was not intuitive, and its interface was unfriendly.
Moreover, in the UNIX system's early days, security was virtually nonexistent. Subsequently, the UNIX system became the first operating system to suffer attacks mounted over the nascent Internet. As the UNIX system matured, however, the organization of security shifted from centralized to distributed authentication and authorization systems.
Today, these perceptions are only of historical interest.
Now, a single Graphical User Interface is shipped and supported by all major vendors has replaced command-line syntax, and security systems, up to and including B1, provide appropriate controls over access to the UNIX system.
The Value of Standards
The UNIX system's increasing popularity spawned the development of a number of variations of the UNIX operating system in the 1980s, and the existence of these caused a mid-life crisis. Standardization had progressed slowly and methodically in domains such as telecommunications and third-generation languages; yet no one had addressed standards at the operating system level. For suppliers, the thought of a uniform operating environment was disconcerting. Consumer lock-in was woven tightly into the fabric of the industry. Individual consumers, particularly those with UNIX system experience, envisioned standardized environments, but had no way to pull the market in their direction.
However, for one category of consumer -governments- the standardization of the UNIX system was both desirable and within reach. Governments have clout and are the largest consumers of information technology products and services in the world. Driven by the need to improve commonality, both US and European governments endorsed a shift to the UNIX system. The Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers POSIX family of standards, along with standards from ISO, ANSI and others, led the way. Consortia such as the X/Open Company (merged with the Open Software Foundation in 1995 to form The Open Group) hammered out draft standards to accelerate the process.
In 1994, the definitive specification of what constitutes a UNIX system was finalized through X/Open Company's consensus process. The Single UNIX Specification was born-not from a theoretical, ivory tower approach, but by analyzing the applications that were in use in businesses across the world.
With the active support of government and commercial buyers alike, vendors began to converge on products that implement the Single UNIX Specification, and now all major vendors have products labeled UNIX 95, which indicates that the vendor guarantees that the product conforms to the Single UNIX Specification.
Vendors continue to add value to the UNIX system, particularly in areas of new technology, however that value will always be built upon a single, consensus standard. Meanwhile, the functionality of the UNIX system was established and the mid-life crisis was resolved. Suppliers today provide UNIX systems that are built upon a single, consensus standard.
It is also important to remember that even when variance among UNIX systems was at its worst, IT professionals agreed that migration among UNIX system variants was far easier than migration among the proprietary alternatives.
Now with UNIX 95 branded products available from all major systems vendors, the buyer can for the first time buy systems from different manufacturers, safe in the knowledge that each one is guaranteed to implement the complete functionality of the Single UNIX Specification and will continue to do so.
UNIX system suppliers can assure customers that they own a standards-based system by registering them to use the Open Brand. Below is a list of suppliers who give users this guarantee.
UNIX 95 Registered ProductsDIGITAL: Digital UNIX® Version 4.0 running Digital's AlphaStations and Digital's AlphaServersHITACHI: Hitachi 3050RX, 3500/3X, 3500/4XX running HI-UX/WE2 Version 06-01 and later HITACHI: Hitachi 3500 running HI-UX/WE2 Version 07-01 and later Hewlett-Packard: HP-UX Release 10.20 and later on all HP9000 Series 700 and 800 HP-UX Release 11.00 or later (in both 32 and 64-bit configurations) on HP9000 Series (all models)IBM: IBM POWER, POWER2, and PowerPCTM Systems with IBM AIX® Version 4.2 or later IBM: OS/390 Version 1 Release 2 or later with OS/390 V1R2 or later Security Server and OS/390 V1R2 or later C/C++ Compiler on IBM System/390 Processors that support OS/390 Version 1 Release 2NCR: NCR UNIX System V Release 4 MP-RAS Release 3.02 or later on NCR WorldMark Series & System 3000 SeriesNEC: UX/4800 R12.3 and later on UP4800 and EWS4800 SeriesSCO: SCO UnixWare® Family R2.1.1 and later for single and multiprocessor IntelTM 386/486 or Pentium® PCs conforming to PC/AT architectures SGI: IRIX 6.5 running on Silicon Graphics systems using the MIPS R4000, R5000, R8000 and R10,000 family of processors SNI: Business Servers running BS2000/OSD V3.0 and higher SNI: Reliant UNIX V5.43 running on RM Server Family, all Models RM200/300/400/600Siemens Pyramid: Reliant UNIX Version 5.43 running on Reliant RM1000® Cluster ServerSUN: Solaris 2.6 on SPARC based systems SUN: Solaris 2.6 on x86pc based systems
What do buyers expect from an Open Systems strategy based on the UNIX system? In 1996 EvansGroup Technology carried out research among computer system buyers in the United States and Europe.
When asked about the benefits of open systems, they key issues of compatibility, flexibility and cost emerged.
The table below shows how respondents ranked the various benefits of Open Systems.
Benefits of Open Systems % Flexibility 70% Freedom to choose IT from different vendors 67% Products from different vendors work together 66% Access across multi-vendor environments 65% Protect investment in existing computer systems 61% Ability to use/share information anywhere in the world 59% Cost savings 55% Interoperability/portability across various platforms 54% Organizational change not constrained by IT system 49% Cost of ownership 49% The UNIX System and Microsoft Windows NT
It is common these days to read analysts' accounts and IS professionals' experiences that compare and contrast the UNIX system with Microsoft Corporation's latest operating system, called Windows NT. Opinions vary, of course, but a number of common themes have emerged. The key differences between these operating environments are as follows:
The UNIX system today is more robust, reliable and scalable. Analysts say this observation, which is widely reported from many different viewpoints, makes practical sense. Engineers at Microsoft are retracing the steps that the UNIX system has completed. How else could it be?
In sharp contrast to the open standards that define the UNIX system, Windows NT technology remains fiercely proprietary. Microsoft remains ambivalent to the world of standards. Choosing NT entangles customers with nonstandard utilities, directories, and software tools that do not conform to any de jure or consensus standards.
The UNIX system today is available on a wide spectrum of computer hardware.
Particularly when high performance is at issue, hardware suppliers suggest the UNIX system, rather than Windows NT. The primary appeal of NT is for low-end, office-centered, departmental applications.
Unit shipment growth rates for Windows NT exceed the rates for the UNIX system, which is to be expected for a new product. However, revenue growth in UNIX systems sales is much higher than NT. It is reasonable to expect Windows NT to take a share in the operating systems market, along with other more specialized operating systems. There is no evidence today to indicate that NT will be dominant; in fact, most IT professionals predict that it will not.
Windows NT Server 4.0 is still not a full-function server operating system. While it does support multi-user computing via third-party add-on tools, it lacks certain fundamental features that the UNIX system is known for providing, such as directory services for managing user access and peripherals over a distributed enterprise network.
The presence of the UNIX system in the marketplace has been good for Windows NT. The UNIX system established the market for cross-platform client and server operating environments that NT seeks to address. In turn, NT will improve the market for UNIX systems in the future. That is, competition among UNIX system providers will be enhanced by competition with NT. The choice between open and proprietary products will be quite crisp.
Today's UNIX System
The key to the continuing growth of the UNIX system is the free-market demands placed upon suppliers who produce and support software built to public standards. The "open systems" approach is in bold contrast to other operating environments that lock in their customers with high switching costs. UNIX system suppliers, on the other hand, must constantly provide the highest quality systems in order to retain their customers. Those who become dissatisfied with one UNIX system implementation retain the ability to easily move to another UNIX system implementation.
The continuing success of the UNIX system should come as no surprise. No other operating environment enjoys the support of every major system supplier. Mention the UNIX system and IT professionals immediately think not only of the operating system itself, but also of the large family of hardware and application software that the UNIX system supports. In the IT marketplace, the UNIX system has been the catalyst for sweeping changes that have empowered consumers to seek the best-of-breed without the arbitrary constraints imposed by proprietary environments.
The market's pull for the UNIX system was amplified by other events as well. The availability of relational database management systems, the shift to the client/server architecture, and the introduction of low-cost UNIX system servers together set the stage for business applications to flourish. For client/server systems, the networking strengths of the UNIX system shine. Standardized relational database engines delivered on low-cost high-performance UNIX system servers offered substantial cost savings over proprietary alternatives.
The UNIX System Tradition
For the last two and a half decades, the UNIX system has upheld a tradition of providing its customers with early access to new technologies. For example:
- UNIX systems provided early access to RISC technology. Applications in CAD/CAM, multimedia, and large-scale publishing that demanded high performance workstations have always used the UNIX system platform.
- The UNIX system provided early access to symmetric multiprocessing [SMP] computers. UNIX system-based SMP parallel processors radically improved the price/performance of midsize and high-range servers.
- The UNIX system first enabled distributed transaction processing in conjunction with TP monitors from independent software suppliers. The server side of client/server technology was launched on the UNIX system.
- The UNIX system launched the Internet and the World Wide Web.
UNIX system suppliers also have a proud tradition of integration with legacy systems as well as innovation to uphold. No other system can ensure that disparate systems - usually proprietary systems - can be integrated, allowing the buyer's investment in data and information to be realized with minimal disruption and reinvestment.
There is every reason to believe that the UNIX system will continue to be the platform of choice for innovative development. In the near term, for example, UNIX system vendors will define the scope of Java and provide the distributed computing environment into which the Network Computer terminal will fit and enable it to thrive and grow.
How will Java and the Network Computer terminal manifest themselves? The exact answer is unknown; however, in open computing, the process for finding that answer is well understood. The UNIX system community has set aside (via consensus standards) the wasteful task of developing arbitrary differences among computing environments. Rather than building proprietary traps, this community is actively seeking ways to add value to the UNIX system with improved scalability, reliability, price/performance, and customer service.
Java and the Network Computer terminal offer several potential advantages for consumers. One key advantage is a smaller, lighter, standards-based client. A second advantage is a specification that is not controlled by one company, but is developed to the benefit of all by an open, consensus process. Thirdly, greater code reuse and a component software market based on Object technology, such as CORBA and Java. All of these options and more are being deployed first by members of the UNIX system community.
Industrial Strength UNIX System
Today's UNIX system is robust, scalable, and it continues to provide uniform access to a wide variety of computing hardware. For these reasons the UNIX system continues to be the operating system of choice for mission-critical systems. The UNIX system is the key enabler for enterprises that wish to keep switching costs as low as possible. That is, the UNIX system remains the only open alternative to locking in on a proprietary operating system.
Scalability is here today, enabling application to run on small-scale systems through to the largest servers necessary. The UNIX system is available on hardware ranging from low-cost PC-class servers on through parallel architectures that harness together 60 or more processors. This range is wider and the choices of hardware more cost effective than any other system. The UNIX system is the only option for Massively Parallel Processing (MPP).
A robust operating system is tough enough to perform successfully under a variety of different operating conditions. By virtue of its worldwide deployment by an international community of system vendors, the UNIX system has earned the reputation for robustness.
Uniform operating system services are at the heart of the standardized UNIX system. Many enterprise systems are assembled with hardware from several different sources. Atop these different hardware platforms, the UNIX operating system provides a uniform platform for database management systems and application software.
The market for the UNIX system continues to expand. IDC estimates the market at US$ 39 billion in 1996 and forecasts the market to be US$ 50 billion in the year 2000. In addition, the installed base of the UNIX system has an estimated value of US$ 122 billion. These market estimates lead to several conclusions about the UNIX system, as follows:
An annual market of US$ 39 billion is large enough to remain attractive to many suppliers and to provide sufficient revenue to fund continuing high levels of investment in support and product enhancement.
The UNIX system's growth rates, which appear modest in comparison to the unit shipment growth of newer products, are anchored by an enormous installed base. High unit shipment growth rates are typical of new entries in a marketplace.
In key benchmarks and mission-critical applications, the UNIX system consistently performs better.
The UNIX system is the dominant software platform for Relational Database Management Systems.
Investment in developing and enhancing UNIX system products is significantly larger than in any other operating environment.
Single UNIX Specification
Today, The Open Group's UNIX 95 brand may be applied to any operating system product that is guaranteed to meet the Single UNIX Specification. The Single UNIX Specification is designed to give software developers a single set of APIs to be supported by every UNIX system.
The most significant consequence of the Single UNIX Specification initiative is that it shifts the focus of attention away from incompatible UNIX system product implementations on to compliance with a single, agreed-upon set of APIs. If an operating system meets the specification, and commonly available applications can run on it, then it can reliable viewed as open.
So, the future looks as though it will be about a set of sturdy and dependable specifications standing as a firm foundation upon which many competing product implementations will be built.
By developing a single specification for the UNIX system, The Open Group and the computer industry have completed the foundation of open systems.
The next version of the Single UNIX Specification, known as Version 2 was announced in March 1997. Products guaranteed to conform to this specification will carry the label UNIX 98.
Single UNIX Specification, Version 2 enhancements
The Single UNIX Specification, Version 2 contains the following enhancements:
- Year 2000 Alignment - changes to minimize the impact of the Millennium Rollover.
- Threads: POSIX 1003.1c-1995. The Threads extensions permit development of applications to make significant performance gains on multiprocessor hardware.
- Large File Summit extensions to permit UNIX systems to support files of arbitrary sizes, this is of particular relevance to database applications.
- Networking Services: The specifications are aligned with the POSIX 1003.1g standard.
- MSE: The Multibyte Support Extension is now aligned with ISO C amendment 1, 1995.
- Dynamic linking extensions to permit applications to share common code across many applications, and ease maintenance of bug fixes and performance enhancements for applications.
- N-bit cleanup (64 bit and beyond), to remove any architectural dependencies in the Single UNIX Specification. This is of particular relevance with the ongoing move to 64 bit (and beyond) CPUs.
- The real-time extensions are an optional feature group, allowing procurement of X/Open real-time systems with predictable, bounded behavior.
- Inclusion of the existing specifications for the graphical user interface, CDE as an option in the UNIX 98 brand.
Benefits for Application Developers
A single standard for the UNIX operating system means:
- Improved portability.
- Faster development through the increased number of standard interfaces.
- More innovation is possible, due to the reduced time spent porting applications.
Benefits for Users
The Single UNIX Specification will evolve and develop in response to market needs protecting users investment in existing systems and applications. The availability of the UNIX system from multiple suppliers gives users freedom of choice rather than being locked in to a single supplier. And the wide range of applications - built on the UNIX system's strengths of scalability, availability and reliability - ensure that mission critical business needs can be met.
In Summary,
When the history of the information age is written, the extraordinary dynamics of the UNIX system marketplace will be seen as playing an important role. The UNIX system was developed at just the right time and place to be the critical enabler for a revolution in information technology. Client/server architectures, the Internet, object databases, heterogeneous transaction processing, and Web computing all emerged on the shoulders of the UNIX system.
Most importantly, the UNIX system continues to be a driving force for innovation because of its commitment to standards. When proprietary differences are set aside, and with the wide implementation of the Single UNIX Specification they are set aside, suppliers compete by adding value. This fundamental tenet is the reason that the UNIX system has thrived - and will continue to thrive in the years to come.
UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group.
Microsoft and Windows NT are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation.
This white paper was developed by the UNIX Systems Cooperative Promotion Group, which is comprised of member companies that include Digital Equipment Corporation, SCO, Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems, Sun Microsystems and The Open Group. The UNIX Systems Cooperative Promotion Group is a non-profit organization of vendors committed to the development and promotion of the UNIX operating system.
...the ‘sales department’ isn’t exactly an unbiased source.
Re: “This white paper was developed by the UNIX Systems Cooperative Promotion Group,”
I’m not saying there hasn’t been work put into Unix; there has been. I’m not saying there hasn’t been work put into C/C++, there has been. The root problem for both, as foundations for building your system on, is that a lot of that work is fixing issues that stem from the original design. (And yes, the language it’s written in DOES have an impact; remember the premise of NewSpeak in 1984, that by making things unexpressable in the language they were making certain modes-of-thought unthinkable.)
Take, for example, threads.
Threads can be mapped directly onto the Task language construct in Ada; in C++ threads are generally done via API/API-Library. (Because there is a task construct in Ada, the Ada compiler ‘knows’ how to manage threads and can optimize them.)
{ See post 12 here: http://www.rhinocerus.net/forum/lang-ada/583736-c-threads-vs-ada-tasks-surprised.html }
Another interesting insight is how C++ views low-level constructs, like arrays. The differences in how you view such a small item can yield BIG results:
http://www.adaic.org/whyada/ada-vs-c/ada-vs-c.html
LOL ... and the other “book” (reference) is from an “anti” group ... so what do you expect? :-)
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