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Police take Mac of blogger who posted iPhone pics
Yahoo news ^ | On Monday April 26, 2010, 4:20 pm

Posted on 04/26/2010 1:40:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Police search house of Gizmodo blogger, take Mac, cell phone in iPhone leak investigation

FREMONT, Calif. (AP) -- A blogger who posted pictures and details of a lost iPhone prototype has given up his computer, digital camera and cell phone to law enforcement.

A special computer-crime task force made up of different law enforcement agencies searched Gizmodo blogger Jason Chen's house and car, according to a statement and search warrant documents provided by Gizmodo.

The warrant says the computer and other devices may have been used to commit a felony.

Apple did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

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To: Star Traveler

That’s for the guy who “found” the phone. Chen’s criminal liability is more likely related to PC 496, reciving stolen property. Gizmodo has civil liability under the California Civil Code trade secrets act., CC3426.

I somehow think that some of the posters on this thread would take a different view if someone just “found” their car in the parking lot of the local Walgreens, and sold it to Gawker for five large.

But I could be wrong.


101 posted on 04/26/2010 5:29:08 PM PDT by absalom01 (Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: editor-surveyor
You were saying ...

Ah, but the lab doesn’t use Windows, do they!

I'm just telling you about the problem with Windows platform, in that they have over 100,000 viruses, which the Macintosh computers don't have -- but that a Macintosh user can be of help to those Windows machines and "help them out" -- when they get infected -- even if the Mac OS X never does get virus infections.

Macintosh users don't have the problem, but Windows users do have the problem.

Any other platform doesn't matter to me (even though they matter to a very small segment of others), because for the general public/consumer, all you're dealing with is Windows and Macintosh and that's it (even though the Mac OS X is UNIX underneath, but the general consumer doesn't deal with that). Where the sales are at with the consumer is Macintosh and Windows. And where they're concerned, Macintosh doesn't have the problem with viruses like Windows does.

Outside of Macintosh and Windows, the consumer doesn't care about anything else, and there's no mass market outside of that.

102 posted on 04/26/2010 5:32:31 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Isn’t that called a PC emulator.
Emulators usually use a lot of proccesing power just to trick the machine into believing that it is something that it is not and that is before the load the application also puts on your computer.
Doesn’t sound to efficient.

I could probably get a Mac emulator for my PC, It’s all the same hardware now anyways right.
I mean a Mac is really nothing more than an overpriced Intel quad-core pc anyways now right?
Except the Mac PC will only allow you to use and do what Steve Jobs tells you that you can use.
That is unless you want to use it as a PC.
But as a Mac user isn’t that kind of foolish?
Why would somebody spend $2500 bucks for a Mac only to emulate a PC?


103 posted on 04/26/2010 5:32:34 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie
You were saying ...

Isn’t that called a PC emulator.

One is and the other is direct... so it depends on which you use. You can do a full and complete boot into Windows and I've read a certain number of geeks that say Windows runs better on Mactintosh hardware. You'll have to take their word for it, because I don't do it, but like I said, there are those Windows people who do say that.


Why would somebody spend $2500 bucks for a Mac only to emulate a PC?

There are computer geeks right on this board who run three different systems on their machines ... LOL ... and they love it.

I was just reading someone who say they ran Mac OS X, Windows and Ubuntu all on their Mac hardware.

The direct boot into Windows works fine and is not a problem. The running of Windows insdie of Mac OS X is great because it's seamless and you can't tell you're running another system. A Windows program just runs as if it's right inside of the Mac OS X system and you can't tell the difference. So for those who want to run just one particular piece of software at a particular time, becuase they feel they have to, but they want their Macintosh -- this works great for them.

It's like I tell people -- Macintosh is the only one that can run all the software, Windows, Mac OS X, UNIX, Linux and/or Ubuntu ... (and who knows what else...).

It's no wonder that computer geeks love Macintosh.

104 posted on 04/26/2010 5:40:17 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: absalom01

LOL ... yeah when it comes to your car, then it’s a different story...


105 posted on 04/26/2010 5:44:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Actually, in the business world Linux/Unix is resurging due to security concerns.

Lots of commercial offerings coming up this year.

Mac’s big installed base is in publishing, and graphics arts. They surrendered the engineering market in the early ‘90s when they gave up on claris CAD. Had they hung on for 3 more years AutoCAD 13’s flop with DCA might have tilted things differently. The cost of software is always greater than hardware in engineering.


106 posted on 04/26/2010 5:45:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: absalom01

What you seem to have missed is that the phone was most likely planted, not lost, for publicity benefit.

Apple had a chance to reclaim the phone when the finder tried to return it, but they wouldn’t have it. They wanted the phone out there.
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107 posted on 04/26/2010 5:48:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor; Swordmaker

I was just reading the other day that Apple is going to have about 100 million devices out there on the market, consumers using them — the iPhone, the iPod Touch and the iPad — by the end of the year.

It seems that Apple is moving strongly into this special mobile market.

In addition to that, for all laptops at $1,000 and up — Apple has about 90% of that market.

That all spells out to a mighty profitable Apple, and a lot of happy consumers... :-)

Perhaps Swordmaker has some stats on this market penetration of Apple’s... (hey Swordmaker...).


108 posted on 04/26/2010 5:50:17 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I really have nothing against Macs.
it is just not the type of system and service that i would want to be locked into.
It’s the 6-8 beers i’ve had since 5pm that is making me combative. :)


109 posted on 04/26/2010 5:53:12 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: editor-surveyor; absalom01
You were saying ...

Apple had a chance to reclaim the phone when the finder tried to return it, but they wouldn’t have it.

That may be the one thing that "saves" this particular guy (the one who found it and then sold it) from any criminal charges. But, it won't save the guy who bought it.

The problem there, with the guy who tried to return it -- is that he apparently got a hold of someone who didn't know what they were talking about ... LOL ... (which is good news for the guy who found it).

HOWEVER, Apple did tell the reporter that they wanted it back. And before the original guy who found it could do anything with the iPhone prototype, Apple had wiped it clean so there was nothing on it, so obviously Apple didn't want it to get out, or else they would have left that on there.

And so, when Apple became aware of the reporter having it (and that got to the people "in the know" as you can imagine ... LOL ...) -- Apple wanted it back, for sure. :-) ...

110 posted on 04/26/2010 5:56:21 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

“In addition to that, for all laptops at $1,000 and up — Apple has about 90% of that market.”

That is simply because an Apple that is equivalent to a $800 Dell or HP costs over $2500.

I haven’t run into any Apple laptops in business use for several years, but I frequently see desk boxes in various places. The companies that my wife has worked for have used Dell laptops exclusively.


111 posted on 04/26/2010 5:57:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Star Traveler

Apple got exaactly what they wanted: 10 million bucks worth of publicity for free.
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112 posted on 04/26/2010 5:59:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
You were saying ...

That is simply because an Apple that is equivalent to a $800 Dell or HP costs over $2500.

You may not know it, but there's a whole lot of those $1,000 Macs that are sold out there. And the Macs range up from there in varying increments -- so it doesn't just go from $1,000 and then to $2,500.

I love the Macs because of how well they're built. I had my laptop for several years while a relative of mine went through two laptops and then finally decided to give up on them and get a cheap desktop (the Windows variety...).

So, from what I've seen, those cheap Windows machines just don't hold up (that's from seeing some of my relatives machines, you see).

113 posted on 04/26/2010 6:03:10 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I still have three old Dells, the oldest from ‘98.

It even runs XP pretty well.

I just presently don’t have much use for them.


114 posted on 04/26/2010 6:07:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
You were saying ...

Apple got exaactly what they wanted: 10 million bucks worth of publicity for free.

Apple can get that anytime they want... they don't have to lose an iPhone prototype to get that kind of publicity. Just look at the publicity they are getting from the iPad...

And part of being able to get that kind of publicity -- for Apple -- has always been by not letting information leak out or be snuck out of their company. That's how they are able to manage getting big publicity when they do release products or updates.

That's precisely part of their strategy.

So, it wouldn't make sense for them to sabotage their own strategy for how they manage to "get publicity" by destroying that very basis that they use to get it -- which is keeping a tight hold on the information until they release it thenselves, with a product announcement or a product release. That's always been part of the publicity aura for Apple. And anyone who knows Apple knows that, too.

115 posted on 04/26/2010 6:08:50 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: editor-surveyor
They surrendered the engineering market in the early ‘90s when they gave up on claris CAD.

Really?
116 posted on 04/26/2010 6:12:21 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Let me tell you about a strategy that some Macintosh users have for getting new computers all the time. First, one thing that people may not realize is that Macintosh computers hold a higher resale value in their market than a corresponding Windows machine for a year old or two years old.

I’ve seen some laptops still at around $100 to $200 off from what they sold for originally. Of course, they’re not going to be beat up and scratched and stuff, and usually they have an extended warranty that makes it enticing, too.

But, these people will sell their computer (usually a laptop) anywhere from 12 to 18 months and lose only, maybe $200 from the sales price. And they’ll get it, too.

Then they buy another one and go another round, in the next 18 months. That’s a pretty cheap way to have a real good computer. As for myself, I’ve always preferred hanging on to them forever, so I do it differently ... :-)

I end up with several machines and keep getting news ones and some others in the family (those who are Mac users, and there are a few) they get some “hand-me-downs” and they’ll be able to continue to use the computer for a good while after that.


117 posted on 04/26/2010 6:15:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: editor-surveyor

I have 2 old Pentium 2 400mhz computers with various hardware lying around.
Yesterday i pulled them both out and going to put the best of the 2 together and make myself a nice garage PC.
I got a small 13 inch monitor in the attic.
I know a P2 400 will sort of run XP and i just really plan on using it for music and the web.

I know for what i plan on using it for i should just load linux or that google cloud OS or whatever But for music and wireless web my XP disc should work ok withut the hassle.

I have a semi-hobby car sitting in the garage and the web and music will be a nice addition when i’m out there working on it this summer.


118 posted on 04/26/2010 6:45:12 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Star Traveler

We don’t even know that it really was a “prototype;” just that it accessed 4th gen. frequencies. There are at least 25 models of phones out there that do that right now.


119 posted on 04/26/2010 6:46:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Yaelle
Explain this. If I found an object in the street, couldn't I sell it on Ebay?

the laws of found objects are explicit and are similar to those of objects placed with someone for storage. Statutorily a "bailment" is created and the finder has a duty to attempt to return the object to it's rightful owner, or to turn that object over to the authorities who will make the attempt. If, after making the attempt, and the passage of a specified period of time, the authorities determine the owner cannot be found, the finder may claim the item.

That did not happen here. Instead, the finder "converted" the object for his use by selling it to a third party. Under the law, that conversion is considered theft. Further, he sold it for an amount that made the theft the equivalent of Grand Theft, a felony.

Then, to complicate the issue, Gizmodo purchased the "stolen" iPhone, something their attorneys could have advised them was a clearly illegal act, and because they knew this phone did not belong to who they were buying it from, they then knowingly became recipients of stolen property, another felony.

I suspect the DA will toss in conspiracy charges as well.

120 posted on 04/26/2010 6:51:24 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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