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L.A.’s Pot Revolution
Reason Magazine ^ | May 2010 | Brian Doherty

Posted on 04/16/2010 5:44:36 PM PDT by grand wazoo

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To: GeronL

GeronL:
I would not argue with you but when you have friends with cancer, Aids, macular degeneration and a few other diseases who cannot get relief from the “prescribed” product the cute blonde, with the rolling suitcase, influenced a doctor to prescribe and that friend found relief in marijuana you might open your eyes.

I don’t blame you for your perception and until I saw felt the same way.


61 posted on 04/17/2010 4:56:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

Wickard v Filburn.


62 posted on 04/17/2010 4:56:44 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

That and I was trying to think of the two women who sent to fed prison. It was about 5 or 6 years ago.


63 posted on 04/17/2010 4:58:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Personally I wish a nice bout of chemotherapy on the people who say there's no relief to be had from marijuana use. Better than that on their spouses or their kids.

I watched my mother puke her guts out for weeks before I finally convinced her to try a hit or two of weed. In less than a day the vomiting was gone and she started eating again.

She actually gained weight on chemo. Her Oncologist was stunned. I had a private chat with him and told him what I'd done. "Whatever works." was all he said.

She's cancer-free now and hasn't touched the stuff since.

I know this is what scientists call 'anectdotal' evidence. I don't give a damn. It worked for my family.

Then there's the fact that the Constitution doesn't grant the Feds the slightest hint of authority to regulate what any consenting adult choses to put into their body in the first place.

As I said above the folks who argue for Federal 'drug control' policy on this board are the worst sort of hypocrites. She's a recovering alcoholic so she was terrified she'd get 'hooked'. But once the chemo was over

64 posted on 04/17/2010 5:14:40 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Vendome

Open my eyes?

lol

“prescribing” pot to a kid for laziness or ADHD is pure stupidity. People who do that deserve bullets to brains.

I don’t care what adults do. As long as its legal to fire or not to hire them because of drug use then I don’t care.


65 posted on 04/17/2010 5:34:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: Vendome

dude you have to be dumb to be a Democrat these days


66 posted on 04/17/2010 5:35:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: DouglasKC
It's only "medicine" because a bunch of rich hardcore leftists brainwashed enough people into voting that it's a medicine.

No, marijuana is enough of "a medicine" that a pharmaceutical company developed and markets a synthetic version of it called Marinol. Unfortunately, synthetic- cannabis Marinol doesn't work quite as well for controlling nausea in many cases and can have some substantial side-effects that marijuana doesn't have, including a heart palpitations, stomach pain and vomiting.

And for those who think "just take Marinol instead of use marijuana, because Marinol won't get you high", think again. Marinol also has the same psychoactive effect that, in some people, is even stronger than marijuana. Confusion, paranoia, anxiety, and dizziness are not uncommon with Marinol

The only advantages to Marinol is that it is in a pill form and can have a longer duration of effect than smoking marijuana.

Beyond that, unless you own stock in the drug company that makes Marinol, there are no other real advantages.

67 posted on 04/17/2010 6:14:40 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: GeronL
California has descended to the level of a 3rd world backwater if they actually think its medicine.

Asking again... do you think CA has legitimate authority under the Tenth Amendment to tax and regulate marijuana? Or, do you think fedgov has legitimate authority under the Commerce Clause to shut down such a program?

68 posted on 04/17/2010 6:50:28 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: GeronL

Word on that. I meant for the diseases I had discussed earlier. ADHD? Don’t think so. there are two drugs and a cup of coffee for that.

The only cure for laziness, is hunger. Not the hunger of avarice or achievement but the hunger like “Guess I better do some work, lest I starve again, tonight”..

LOL


69 posted on 04/17/2010 7:12:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: GeronL

Did you see my joke at #53?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2494725/posts?page=53#53


70 posted on 04/17/2010 7:13:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Lurker

I too have a friend who has luekemia, which is in remission.

Doesn’t touch the stuff but now feels relief knowing there are not only legitimate sources available but the growers and suppliers are very conscious about the quality of the product and growing organically so as not to introduce pesticides and other chemicals into an already ill person’s care.


71 posted on 04/17/2010 7:15:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: GeronL

Dumb?!

Well then explain this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4


72 posted on 04/17/2010 7:17:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: grand wazoo

These short articles leave much to be desired.


73 posted on 04/17/2010 7:17:50 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Bokababe

I have had friends who tried marinol because it was “prescribed” by a doctor and there was no stigma associated with it. They too suffered from heart palpitations, stomach pain and vomiting.

They found people who knew about this stuff and started taking the real thing. Problems with marinol abated and they found the relief they were looking for.


74 posted on 04/17/2010 7:19:18 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Ken H

Kah-lee-fawn-ee-yahw has authority.


75 posted on 04/17/2010 7:20:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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There are apparently a lot of you who like the idea of drugged up sexed up kids. I guess Kevin Jennings and Planned Parenthood is on your side.

I just don’t want to talk about it anymore.


76 posted on 04/17/2010 7:23:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: Lurker
The proper Conservative position on marijuana use is to leave it up to the States to formulate their own policies on it.

So how is, for example, Utah supposed to ban it outright if, for example, Nevada decides to make it, say, almost completely unregulated? How is Utah supposed to exercise its states' rights under such a situation?

But what amuses me most is the priorities of the libertarians: Potheads plus the welfare state. What can possibly go wrong?

77 posted on 04/17/2010 7:28:31 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Bokababe
No, marijuana is enough of "a medicine" that a pharmaceutical company developed and markets a synthetic version of it called Marinol. Unfortunately, synthetic- cannabis Marinol doesn't work quite as well for controlling nausea in many cases and can have some substantial side-effects that marijuana doesn't have, including a heart palpitations, stomach pain and vomiting.

If "medical" marijuana were just about the medicines you can derive from natural substances than you might have a case. But it's not about that at all. The left has always tried to make drug use acceptable in America because it's always been one of the weapons they use to destroy productivity, morality, and belief in God. After various tactics to legalize it they finally hit upon a winning strategy. Get it on ballots by convincing enough brain dead idiots that smoking pot was really about giving medicine to people. They use the standard leftist playbook....call it "compassion" and accuse anyone who says "Hey, it's really about destroying the country" as uncaring morons.

So have fun helping leftists...

78 posted on 04/17/2010 7:29:07 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Vendome

Do you have any healthy friends?

Don’t answer. I don’t want to know you, lest I be stricken as well.


79 posted on 04/17/2010 7:30:59 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
Utah supposed to ban it outright if, for example, Nevada decides to make it, say, almost completely unregulated?

Those two States seem to do just fine regulating gambling and prostitution within their borders. Why should a stupid plant be any different?

But what amuses me most is the priorities of the libertarians: Potheads plus the welfare state.

Thanks for putting your astounding ignorance of Libertarian principles on display for all of us to enjoy. Libertarians HATE the welfare state and would end it tomorrow if it weren't supported by BOTH the Republicans and the Dems.

L

80 posted on 04/17/2010 7:33:34 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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