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Grandmother: Boy terrorized adoptive family in US - Russia Furious U.S. Adopted Boy Given Back
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Posted on 04/10/2010 12:24:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono

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To: JoeProBono

The family should have called...Super Nanny!


21 posted on 04/10/2010 1:06:29 PM PDT by 23 Everest (Vote them all out of office!)
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To: 23 Everest
LOL!


22 posted on 04/10/2010 1:09:40 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Average Al

Have seen some studies about children like this. They have no nurturing as infants and then are incapable of making that human connection. For some reason instead of withdrawing they become very aggressive and violent.


23 posted on 04/10/2010 1:13:14 PM PDT by Carley (Are you better off than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: jerseyrocks
This lady is just not fit to be a parent.

It's worth noting that she is not married and lives with her mother. If she is not able (or willing) to find and keep a husband, who would be a sane adult, then she is even less qualified to parent a child who most likely has problems. Children from orphanages are all troubled.

24 posted on 04/10/2010 1:19:46 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Carley

Yep, the same thing is true of animals, dogs in particular.


25 posted on 04/10/2010 1:20:06 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: jerseyrocks

You’ve obviously never been in that situation, have you?


26 posted on 04/10/2010 1:21:46 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: autumnraine

This is an adoption not a birth.

There were representations made and if proven, there was fraud involved. What about the american end of the equation? Where is their due diligence?

Adoption is a legal fiction created legislativly there is no common law equivalent so the law is very specific and narrow. You may balk at children being a product for a contract but that is the real world.


27 posted on 04/10/2010 1:23:28 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dawn53

It’s odd, because I have known families who have adopted Chinese children (from orphanages in China) and haven’t had this problem. Granted, not every Russian child has this disorder, but it does seem that Russian orphanages in particular seem to be good at producing it in a disproportionate number of their children.


28 posted on 04/10/2010 1:41:09 PM PDT by livius
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To: constitutiongirl

Adopted means YOU are the parent. If my daughter or son stared lighting fires, being mean, etc,,,, i can’t “return” em anywhere. Welcome to parenthood.


29 posted on 04/10/2010 1:45:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: autumnraine

“What would happen to a child born into a family with this very same scenario.”

Exactly


30 posted on 04/10/2010 1:46:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: JoeProBono

I don’t blame this woman at all; she undoubtedly went into it with a good heart, but why should she ruin her life...and possibly LOSE her life...to save this child from his demons? It is hard enough if it is your own child...lacking that connection, it is a nightmare she didn’t bargain for.


31 posted on 04/10/2010 1:47:19 PM PDT by LizzyD
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To: MamaDearest

>parents were both professional people of high regard. Their
>child was devious and deceitful.

Two choices as parents:

1) invest in your kids
2) invest in your career


32 posted on 04/10/2010 1:56:20 PM PDT by ROTB (Armed revolt, INVITES a foreign power to attack. Fixing the church fixes the country.)
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To: autumnraine
I couldn't agree with you more. We have an adopted 9year old from China, adopted at age one, and there has been some attachment issues bit overall she is a wonderful child. OUR child once we adopted her. If an issue arises we deal with it because she is our child, same as our other biological child. People can do what is called “disrupt” a foreign adoption, basically give the child back but in a legal way and done legally. I couldn't Imagine anyone ever doing that but it's legal. You don't just put the kid back on a plane to Russia. And you don't have to give any reason why you want to disrupt, so it's not like she was forced to parent the child. Either way, a Russian orphanage or what this “mother” did to him has helped to create one more deviant in society, unless something is done quickly to help him. If your mother would send you onto a plane to Russia at age7 alone to Russia, how was she treating you at home? And arson is usually a sign of sexual abuse in young children, and most professionals who deal with these children k ow this. He should have been given treatment here for his behavior, it can be free if you can't pay. My daughter's adoption adoption was finalized in China at the US consulate, new immigration law at the time made her a US citizen upon coming to this country. If this boy is a citizen, where are his rights?
33 posted on 04/10/2010 1:57:44 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico
Please forgive my typos and run on sentences, I just learned how to reply on Freerepublic with my I phone!
34 posted on 04/10/2010 2:00:37 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: livius

It was very interesting what you wrote. I am familiar with several families that adopted children from Russian orphanages.One family lucked out and adopted three lovely teenage girls originally from the Ukraine. They are bright and loving, and have acclimated beautifully to America. Another family adopted two children from Russia over the course of several years. The first child is very sweet but seems to have mental disabilities. Her biological parents were rabid alcoholics. The second adoption was a little girl, very cute, but once brought to the USA was a terror on wheels. They are having a lot of difficulty with her. WHen they met her in the orphanage,she had run up to the mother and began hugging her which melted their hearts. She is a handful for a set of parents who are well into their sixties. Another family I know, are one of those compulsive adoptive parents who seem to be adopting children every year. This family adopted a girl from Russia when she was about 9. I was her teacher at one point, and she seemed very nice and well adjusted. However, I recently heard that the mother tried to give her back to the orphanage in Russia because she has “attachment disorder”, the condition you mentioned in your post. I am wondering if that has become the catch all phrase for adoptive families that no longer want the child they adopted. It seems to me that many adoptive parents have unreal expectations of what the adopted child should be and when the child does not meet those expectations, the family no longer wants them. In this case, the mother sent the kid to a private Catholic boarding school in PA where they house wayward children. She is not allowed contact with the outside world since her old school friends have tried to call her and the administration there refuses to comply. Many of the children in Russian orphanages are the product of alcoholic parents and have mental and physical conditions that are not discussed by those in charge. However, there are some, like this young lady I mentioned, that are adopted by American families who tire of them when the going gets tough.


35 posted on 04/10/2010 2:15:27 PM PDT by sueuprising
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To: livius

Having adopted from China and gone directly to the orphanage, the Chinese caregivers seem to do the best they can do with what they have, given the high number of children in their care. The people I know that have adopted from Russia speak of filthy orphanages, children underfed, under clothed and left alone for long periods of time. IMHO that’s the difference in situations most of the time in Chinese vs Russian adoptions.


36 posted on 04/10/2010 2:16:34 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

One more thing, in the case of adopting an infant or small child, just like having a bio child, no one knows what the future brings but we do the best we can and face tough situations as they arise .


37 posted on 04/10/2010 2:23:40 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MamaDearest

really not a new subject...back in the 50’s there was the same kind of movie out called The Bad Seed. Scary and the bad seed was a girl....


38 posted on 04/10/2010 2:34:56 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: LizzyD

I agree with you.


39 posted on 04/10/2010 2:57:56 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: MacMattico; sueuprising

That’s interesting; there is clearly a difference between the Russian and Chinese orphanages.

And the other possibility is that the Chinese children are healthier to begin with. Many Russian children are probably born with fetal alcohol syndrome or born addicted to drugs, whereas Chinese children are probably, for the most part, unwanted girls or “extra” children born to relatively healthy parents.


40 posted on 04/10/2010 3:12:53 PM PDT by livius
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