Posted on 03/28/2010 7:15:31 PM PDT by Nodems2000
I have seriously been thinking of leaving the country. My hope is pretty much gone that we can turn any of this around. Who would I be staying for....to support the people who ride in the cart and don't contribute and hate this country? I'm too old for all this and if the immigration bill goes through, I totally believe all is lost. How can we pay VAT, Tax and Trade, Healthcare, Local sales taxes, income taxes, etc., etc. and survive? So overused today, but it's "non-sustainable"
I haven’t given up on retaking NY from the libs yet, so I sure as hell ain’t giving up my country yet.
Hell, I even considered Russia. How crazy is that?
It may not be that crazy. They’ve been down this road before and although they are, under Putin, quasi-fascist, they are not likely to hamstring their entire economy again anytime soon through Marxist programs. Keep in mind that Russia does have a Muslim problem (Chechnya), as well as the fact the economy is still pretty much based on a single resource: oil (and some gas). Major cities like Moscow are VERY expensive; as expensive as New York City, if not more so.
Some of the other former “eastern bloc” countries are worth looking at: Poland is very committed to democratic/capitalist development and still considers itself a very christian country. The Baltic countries — Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania — are supposedly doing much better economically despite downturns in 2007 from the subprime meltdown. Worth looking into.
I like the people of eastern Europe — brilliant, wry humor, cynical about politics, etc. and I think they basically admire Americans, since we all went through the Cold War together — but, heck, the weather! I want WARM, so I’m looking at south of the border. Look into an online magazine called “escapefromamerica.com”. Some of the articles are infuriatingly anti-American, but it often has interesting insights on places to settle as an ex-pat. Hate to say this, but one place being pushed as a retirement place is Cuba. The articles from the aforesaid magazine are blunt: yes, Cuba is a socialist hellhole...for native Cubans, NOT for Americans who wish to retire there. There is an unofficial “two-tier” society for just about everything...including, of course, medical care (just as we will soon have an unofficial two-tier system under zerodeathcare).
Finally, the Philippines has a large ex-pat community. Worth investigating.
I was interested for a time in the Northern Marianas (Tinian and Rota) but (i) they are owned by the U.S., so they are not exactly an escape; and (ii) there doesn’t seem to be anything going on there. They seem to be scuba-diving vacation spots for the Japanese, but that’s about it. (Tinian is especially interesting to me historically because it was from there that the Enola Gay — the plan that dropped the A-bomb on Hiroshima — took off in August 1945.)
If anyone has information regarding ex-pat communities anywhere in the world — Hong Kong, Singapore, Chile, etc. wherever — please post for other FReepers. I’ve abandoned the traditional notion of a comfortable retirement; it ain’t gonna happen for me. I’m interested in SURVIVAL and FREEDOM.
“Hell I’m even in Michigan and I intend to stay and irritate the liberals into surrender.”
Sounds like you’re ready to change your name to BATTLECREEK.
Nope! I will do whatever I can, legally, to take my country back from the Marxists currently in power! As somone else said on this thread, “I was born here and I will die here”.
“If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth.” — Ronald Reagan
It will take the US Military to stop the marxists in DC, let’s not pretend that they will be stopped through the electoral process
Concur and seconded.
I’ve got my back up against the River Raisin and I go no further. However I could be convinced to put my back up against Lake Superior in Grand Marais Michigan. That place is heaven.
Yeah but I believe New Zealand doesn’t have an extradition agreement w/the USA.
You are of course free to go as you please. I don’t know why you think Costa Rica or Panama would necessarily be better for you, or stay better for you.
There is no knowing the future. For any country.
Wherever you go, hopefully you will do what you can to make things better there.
“I even considered Russia.”
There are some very attractive things about Russia right now!
I just always wonder, how long will it last?
I'm dropping out of the game by becoming self sufficient, dropped cable, land line, installed solar, drilling a well and etc. I've stopped working and contributing to paying income taxes. We make do, buy from individuals, grow our own food, hunt, fish, do our own maintenance and build or make things instead of buying. I just finished a wooden fishing boat. The one thing we do trade saved paper dollars for are tools, materials, commodities and silver dollars. For instance, a new sewing machine purchased on-line arrives tomorrow for mending and utility usage such as making a sail and bimini for the boat I built.
I've lost weight, gotten some muscle back and feel much much better physically and mentally. I haven't even had a cold this winter so I know I'm healthier.
Life is good!
Leave the “land where my fathers died”? Nope.
“Finally, the Philippines has a large ex-pat community. Worth investigating.”
I have been here for 15 months now, and very happy.
It is all in attitude. If you can adjust to a third world country you can be quite happy.
I live here with my Philippine girlfriend, at a beach in a nice little town on Cebu. It cost us about $500 a month to live, including rent, food, plenty of wine, internet...everything.
I do, however, avoid other expats. Many of them are real slobs, but we do have enough expat friends.
Leave the “land where my fathers died”? Nope.
Feel free to run away though...
This may be an ignorant question, but I thought Texas was mostly Mexican population-wise now??
Not leaving but paying off all bills and planning on buying some land maybe in Montana up near the Canadian border or thereabouts....somewhere that few people like living in cold weather. The farther in the boonies - the better.
BRAVO, Preacher, THAT is what Jefferson, Franklin and Washington would tip their hats to!
Lock and load, people -
Semper Fi
I have a copy of the passenger list of the ship my 5th-great-grandfather sailed on from Germany in the 1750s. The other side of the family is Scots-Irish. I’m so steeped in family history and lore—and so attached to the real estate that they tamed and occupied—that I could never leave my family and heritage. In more recent times, my great-grandfather was appalled by FDR’s statism. He went out and knocked down the outhouses the govt. tried to build on his land in Tennessee. He refused to take ANYTHING from the government and once remarked in the 1930s, “We surely are living in end times with this attempted government takeover.”
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