How about re-fried beans?
Lima beans: vegetarian buckshot.
Very short range, low impact (relatively speaking).
00 for me.
I have heard of loading a 12 gauge with a stack of dimes.Nasty short range self defence load.
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I’ve seen #4 buckshot recommended instead of 00 for home defense, it’s supposed to limit overpenetration while still being effective. Birdshot won’t have enough penetration against a heavily dressed or fat/muscular adversary, except at very close range.
I have some loaded with small bean bags from the factory. Very short range, but has a hell of a wallop. I’ve never openend one of the little bags.
12g...Stack of dimes will stop any wild thang! ..of course I have never used such and don’t recommend it..
When I was a young lad in Florida, one of the neighbors took umbrage with we innocent young teenagers filling bags with tangerines from his grove.... Rock salt.... we learned our lesson.... stang a lot.. not much penetration
There was this Irish terrorist who loaded his shells with chickpeas .... and that was his name - Chickpea ...
I keep a 20 round drum loaded with 12 Gauge 00-Buck.
When shot, I don’t want it to move(or anything else) anymore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ievbU3xIYGQ
Shotgun Ammunition: ‘Rounds of Authority’
;o)
I grew up around firearms. When bored on my Uncle’s farm I would dump the shot out of the shell and fill it with whatever was around and test it out against plywood or birds. You name it, I loaded it.
He also had an old damascus twist steel barreled shotgun but I wasn’t stupid enough to put a modern shotgun shell in that 12 gauge and fire it.
My cousin once took one of my uncles shotguns, stuck it in a pile of fresh pig manure and pulled the trigger. He survived the barrel exploding............
Load your muzzle loader with choice of odd pelletage most of these old ditties refer to the days of yore when muzzle loaders were state of the art. The rock salt was to run kids off that they really did not want to hurt just teach a lesson to. I suppose if you were good at reloading you could try some odd loads with modern cartridges but some of them do not recommend reloading at all any more, reloading is not for the neophyte.
I had a coworker who had been shot with rocksalt in his youth. Was ditbiking on a farmer’s fields without permission, ... anyway, the scars are really hideous.
Depending on the jurisdiction there is no difference between shooting buckshot, birdshot or rocksalt, still going to get arrested for intent to commit manslaughter at a minimum if the LEOs and DA sees it that way.
The more expensive beanbags that have been classified as “less lethal” by the BATFE classification system would probably provide legal protections for the intent you are looking for by posting this question on FR...
JMHO, I am not a lawyer, and didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
The robber will spend his last breath picking out and putting the diamonds in his pocket.
Y'see.
I would think that filling your shot shells with anything organic would really foul up your barrell.........Personally, I wouldn’t even think of it.
Rice, gets under the skin and swells up.
Old timers used to use dried bacon rind and rock salt.
Myself I would like something that spreads a stain under the skin, turns a person a different color.
I use 1 shot in the first shell (2,000 bb’s) and 7.62 shot in the 2nd shell (22 bb’s). If the 1st round doesn’t disperse whoever is pissing me off, the 2nd shell will shirley do the job.