Posted on 03/25/2010 8:41:31 AM PDT by Lucky9teen
GLENN: From the New York Times Sunday, ex offenders and the vote. Millions of ex offenders who have been released from prison are denied the right to vote. That undercuts the effort to reintegrate former prisoners into mainstream society, and it goes against one of democracy's most fundamental principles, that governments should rule with the consent of the governed. Congress held hearings last week on the Democracy Restoration Act that would allow released ex felons to vote in federal elections. I will give you all of the information here and put it into context, this and illegal immigration coming up.
Let me, let me warn you now in no uncertain terms: You must always be a people of peace. Always. Unless your life is being threatened, in no uncertain terms, you must always be a people of peace. We are entering a very dangerous phase and I believe it's intended to be that. I want to ask you this question, and I want you to, I want you to really think of what I'm about to tell you. How many times have you thought about overthrowing the government of the United States? Trying to think... never, for me.
PAT: Just am adding it up here. Just, I'm... none.
GLENN: How many friends do you have that have ever sat around and thought about those things? How many times have you ever spent any time thinking about, if I just throw a bomb, maybe I can get a revolution started. Have you ever thought of that? Do you know anyone who has ever thought of that? The answer is, for me, and I believe I would have said a year ago the entire audience, the entire population of America I would have said none, zero. Last night I was standing at the chalkboard and I have been trying to figure a couple of things out. Barack Obama said a year ago do you have the quote where he's talking about, you can't rule with 51 votes on healthcare, where you can't govern? He said, you can't govern with just 51 votes on healthcare. You can't pass this and then govern, can't happen, we can't do it that way. So why did he do that? In fact, it wasn't even that solid. Why would you do that? The next question I asked myself is why would you go right directly to immigration reform? Something that was so divisive that it almost tore the republic apart. Why would you do that?
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Last night I was standing in front of a chalkboard and I looked at the I had some quotes ready from the revolutionaries that are here surrounding the president now and the revolutionaries from the first American Revolution. Notice I said first American Revolution because I think the second American Revolution is being played out right now. They are calling it the fundamental transformation. And I'm looking at these and I start I'm in the commercial break and I'm looking at the founders and I think to myself, "We are not these people. Where is George Washington, where is Ben Franklin, where is Thomas Jefferson, where are these great, great thinkers? Where are they? We're not these people. Where is Samuel Adams? We have to have Samuel Adams. We must be a people that understand faith in God. Where are they?" And I'm thinking, "If there is a revolutionary if there's a revolution now, it ends the way the French Revolution did, which is Napoleon, a dictator, bloodshed, awful, awful things in a dictator." And I was about to go on the air. It was about 30 seconds before I went on the air. And then I looked at the others, the new fundamental transformation revolution. And I that you had, oh, my gosh, these people, these people have thought of revolution. I've never thought of revolution. These people have. Where were they in the 1960s? In the 1960s they were in SDS. Andy Stern, Medina, the new guy on immigration, member of SDS. You have Van Jones, a guy who was calling for a violent revolution. I mean, he was part of what was the name of that communist group that he was people believe he may have started, may have written a communist book, but there's no evidence of it, but his fingerprints are all over it. These are people that have recently. William Ayers. William Ayers on 9/11 said "I don't think we did enough when we were throwing bombs." These are people that were there.
Now, you know all this, but have you put this piece together? Because this is what happened to me last night before I went on the air: If you were in the 1960s and you were a radical and you believed in a Marxist revolution, you were crushed. And who crushed you? Well, the good God fearing grandparents that we all had that were going to church every Sunday, they all stood up, "These hippies, these people." Remember that: These hippies. Who crushed you? LBJ and Nixon. The man. Not the hippies. The man. And as you threw bombs, you realized the one thing that was on the chalkboard last night, that we are a religious and moral people. How did you pass healthcare? You passed it through your heart. They got it done because it's through your heart. And when your heart wasn't enough, they went for corruption, any means possible. But that's how they have done this. You hate people who are sick. You don't care about little children." They are about to do this with immigration: "You don't care about them because you hate them because they're different than you. You're a xenophobe, you don't want any foreigners in." You go for their heart. Now, if I was a radical in the 1960s and I say, how did we lose? We lost because we were in power. Arriving now: Cloward and Piven. What you need to do is collapse it from the inside. You need to get as many people from the welfare rolls onto it and collapse. But remember that there needs to be a framework that it collapses into. What that means is you must have power. It's not enough to be out on the streets. You must be Richard Nixon. You must have radicals at the top. Now, if I again am sitting there and I'm listening to that and I think, you know what really, what really killed us here was Americans don't like bomb throwers. They don't like hippies.
Let me give you now the quote from Van Jones: I am willing to drop the radical pose for the radical ends. People don't like hippies. People don't like Marxists or communists. They know that. They also know they don't like bomb throwers. They also know America is a country of forgiveness. "I threw a bomb in the past. Okay, that was my youth. I was crazy. It was an indiscretion. Stop talking about the past. Don't you have forgiveness? Your Christian charity, you don't forgive and forget?"
So now they're in power, the people who have plotted a revolution. They were plotting it in the Sixties. Some of them still talk about throwing bombs and everything else, doing whatever they have then what happens? They what? What? What after this? If you're going to take over, if you're going to end it, if you want to have the true fundamental transformation of America, what you do is you have to reverse the roles. You have to put yourself in the role of LBJ, the man, and you need to put the man, you need to put the good Christian people in your role from the 1960s, the ones with the signs and the banners in the streets. Because you can manipulate them like crazy because you know what the man did to you that pissed you off! You know what the man was doing to you that made you say, "I gotta get a bomb!" And you also know that doesn't work. So if they are now at the top, why do you think they are needling and poking and prodding all the time? Why do you think they slap you down on healthcare and just as you're getting up, they punch you in the face with immigration? Why do you think they are being so divisive? If you are a loving parent and you discipline your child, the first thing you do is hug them so you are not estranged from that child, so your child doesn't say, "My daddy doesn't love me." But what have they done? They gave us a spanking on healthcare and then they punched us in the face. They want you to say "Daddy doesn't love me." They need you to be estranged from them. They need you to pick up a gun or a bomb. They need you to break the law. They need you to become them in the 1960s. They need you to do it. Because they know America does not support those kinds of people and they have become legitimate. They have dropped the radical pose for the radical ends, and they are making you the radical. Do not play into their game. They hold all of the cards. Do not do anything but get on your knees. As we turn to him, he will turn to us. This is his land. Let it play out his way. Do not pick up anything... except your soul. They need you to become radical.
Very good. You are intelligent. Look at posts #7 and 17 and tell us what you think.
And our FRiend Hostage. I go now, lest I humiliate you further.
Now is the time to get educated. Most people don’t even know how the process works and are fearful because they have been misled to believe they can’t control it.
And to Woebama, you mention you have respect for the Founders but can’t find enough leaders like them today; not enough Sarah Palin populists etc. And I told you the the original convention had mostly people from the towns and countryside and the leaders you spoke of were very few in number.
But think about this. The Founders gave you the Constitution and explicitly gave you the power to do an end run around the President and the Congress through Convention. Why would they do that?
Did they not know the weakness and debasement of the human character? Yes, they knew it very well. So why did they leave the power of convention to the People? And especially in a way that it left states and not population in control?
For example why would they leave sparsely populated Alaska with the same power as Illinois with its liberal power in Chicago?
The Founders knew there had to be a final means to save the Republic.
And the good news is that conservatives have the power in the countryside which means they have the power in conventions. Very few people have lost sight of this but the Left knows they are finished if conservatives wake up to this power. So look for a barrage from trolls on blogs and forums that try to discourage anyone from learning more.
Small states like Delaware, Rhode Island, Vermont as well as Alaska and Montana . . . I hear what you are saying and it’s a good point, but there is a great deal of danger in starting a process guaranteed to get rid of our current Constitution for good.
Good to see you are coming around a bit. But one last note. No one is going to get rid of our Constitution unless we let them, unless we remain uninformed of our power.
You see, the Left, if they controlled the countryside would call for a convention in a New York minute and overturn our Constitution. The fact that they don’t call for a convention means they know they don’t have the power there, at least not yet and it would take years for them to get control of the countryside, the Heartland.
Keep reading up on it. If we are not educated, we have no hope in the future.
What do you recommend to read?
Thanks for this thread. Here are some afterthoughts:
If you were in the 1960s and you were a radical and you believed in a Marxist revolution, you were crushed.
On this point, Beck is pitifully mistaken. The left may have been stalled, but it definitely was not crushed.
They survived, reformed, realigned their immediate objectives and now, at this moment are prevailing.
Take a look at the politically correct campuses, grade schools and many local governments.
Count the members of Congress proudly and publically listed as members of the Democratic Socialists of America (Pelosi resigned upon becoming the Speaker), its offshoots the Hispanic Caucus and the Black Caucus.
Take a look at the Oval Office, take a look at the out-of-the-closet credentials of Os various appointments, judicial and otherwise.
It is imperative that Americans recognize their agenda.
As stated elsewhere this morning: The left regards dissent as hate speech.
Anyone disagree with that?
Whatever we do, our defense of the Constitution must not be defined with their terms.
bttt
The words in the Constitution are in Article 5.
Only with 2/3s of state legislatures (34 states) can a Constitutional Convention be called. Congress must convene the CC, they cannot refuse it when 34 states call for it.
There are only two bodies that can propose amendments: Congress or Constitutional Convention.
Congress and Constitutional Conventions can only ***propose*** amendments, never pass them. Only states can pass amendments through ratification.
At the state level, they cannot change the amendments, they cannot propose amendments, they can only vote yay or nay to ratify.
At the state level there are two means of voting on an amendment, via state legislature or state convention. The amendment language will instruct whether the legislatures or the state conventions will decide. I prefer state conventions because it is at county level, and not subject to population such as my state of Washington we have almost every county with conservative majorities but one county, King County has a concentration of liberal population that often dictates to the rest of the state.
Here’s a text graphic summary:
4 ways to an amendment (proposal —>ratify):
1. Congress (2/3s) —> States (3/4s)
2. Congress (2/3s) —> State Conventions (3/4s)
3. Convention (2/3s) —> States (3/4s)
4. Convention (2/3s) —> State Conventions (3/4s)
Good news is that delegates to a constitutional convention are mostly drawn as 2 delegates each from each county. So large liberal counties only get 2 delegates and sparse rural counties get 2 delegates.
An excellent summary that will put all the overblown fears in place was written by one of our fine Freepers with help with another Freeper who worked for many years under justices of the Supreme Court:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823341/posts
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