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1 posted on 03/13/2010 1:56:10 PM PST by JoeProBono
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What a bunch of whiners. I loved Charlie Chan when I was a kid.

And what about Peter Lorre's Mr. Moto who kicked butt on all sorts of white people? But everything is racism /sarcasm

2 posted on 03/13/2010 1:58:56 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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We’re going to see a war between the ‘Offended by the depiction of Asians’ people, and the ‘OMG he has a GUN with his finger on the trigger; and there’s a Knuckle Knife!’ people...


4 posted on 03/13/2010 2:05:20 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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A screening of such films “indicates the level of disenfranchisement and disregard they hold for Asian Pacific Islanders,” said Ken Choy, a producer and community organizer in Los Angeles.

What complete and utter idiocy. If he really screened the films or read the novels upon which they are based, he would have seen that Chan is not disenfranchised OR disregarded. He is in a position of power (detective/inspector) and controls the investigation. Local police defer to him, as do hotel operators, ship's captains and the like. "It's the famous detective! How are you, Mr. Chan?"

There are characters who make racial slurs or perceive him as dim, but Chan, to his credit, lets it roll past him and often uses the false stereotype to his advantage in most cases. In other words, he rises above it. He's the hero of the series and solves the baffling case every time, for pity's sake!

If this Ken Choy actually watched these films, he didn't have a clear view because his own obsession with race was blocking the screen. Liberals make me ill.
8 posted on 03/13/2010 2:13:36 PM PST by LostInBayport (2010 - The Second American Revolution. The first shot was fired 1/19/2010 -- here in Massachusetts!)
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In the good old days, Saturday morning TV would see The Little Rascals, Charlie Chan and Sherlock Holmes with Basil Rathbone. I just loved those black and white films on the small screen....and I was no longer a "kid", at least year-wise, LOL.

Today, there's probably too many of the "ah so" comments by Charlie. The racism! The horror!

Confucius say liberalism is mental disease in the noodle.

Leni

11 posted on 03/13/2010 2:20:28 PM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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LOVE the Charlie Chan films. It seemed to me that they actually had more Asian actors in them than any films at the time. And they weren’t portrayed as sinister, etc. they were just regular people. The actor who portrayed number one son, adored Warner Oland. So much so that he wouldn’t do another Chan film Oland’s breakdown.

I can’t believe that people waste time getting offended over films that are so old.

And don’t forget Boris Karloff had a series of films as well as a Chinese detective. Mr. Wong.


13 posted on 03/13/2010 2:21:18 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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Charlie Chan on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bGxI6J1M7M&feature=PlayList&p=76DEE1C229E807A5&index=0&playnext=1


17 posted on 03/13/2010 2:25:11 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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“But some Asian-Americans say that although Charlie Chan was an amalgam of stereotypes, he should be looked at in a broader context 80 years after he was created.”

Charlie Chan was modeled after Chang Apana, also known as Ah Ping Chang, a real-life detective with the Honolulu Police Department.

Photo of Chang Apana with Warner Oland can be seen here:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9o9GcJ3CGUo/Sw5m0F0btCI/AAAAAAAAAWI/P4vx4Ce6jDo/s1600/Apana%20&%20Oland.jpg


20 posted on 03/13/2010 2:27:43 PM PST by kaehurowing
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“Rose in fish market still smell like fish.” “Hey Pop”................. OOOOOOOH, that’s racist???? As a matinee kid, he was one of our favorites. Who knew?


22 posted on 03/13/2010 2:30:21 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft
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I’m offended at all those white people wearing “blue face” in Avatar.


26 posted on 03/13/2010 2:35:55 PM PST by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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Much ado over not very much. There was a clear line of demarcation in the Chan films: the racists were stupid or villains, Chan's colleagues viewed him with respect and deference, and his too-hip Americanized sons thought he was ridiculously old-fashioned and were nearly always wrong. The "fortune-cookie aphorisms" were intended to be funny. The underlying theme in the series was that young America had a lot to learn from old China, and it isn't really hard to figure out.

As far as Oland himself, the films had been tried with Asian leads and hadn't done well. What happened was pure Hollywood - a hot script tied to a name actor. The formula worked, and they repeated it 15 times. That wasn't about racism, it was all about the bottom line.

31 posted on 03/13/2010 2:46:50 PM PST by Billthedrill
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For many activists

Yeah, all three of 'em. It always cheeses me off when Corporate America assumes the fetal position when dealing with these professional victims. Paying attention to them only increases their sense of power. Better to say, "Your complaint has been noted - NEXT?"

I just finished watching all of the Warner Oland DVDs and saw just a cool unassuming guy underplaying his hand - until the final scene when he ALWAYS outsmarted and nabbed the bad guy.

Gee, where were all the Italians "activists" when "Colombo" was in his prime? There were episodes where he was an absolute suck-up to some celebrity, then like Charle, nailed them in the end. Both used the "dumb as a box of rocks" approach, which every viewer knew, and just waited to see the bad guy tripped up.

Put this whiner Choy on the spot and ask him what scene in what Chan movie was so offensive. Bethcha this idiot never even watched those movies.

The character was usually played by white actors who were made up to seem Asian and who spoke English with an exaggerated accent. The portrayals also frequently perpetuated the cliché of Asian-Americans as inscrutable.
In one of the extras on those DVDs mentioned above, they showed Warner Oland touring Shanghai and the narrator made the observation that the Chinese there all thought Warner WAS Chinese. It's called ACTING for a reason, Mr. Choy.

32 posted on 03/13/2010 2:55:15 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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ANyone else remember this?
I thought it was just a bad dream until I found pages of images ....

37 posted on 03/13/2010 3:12:24 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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A book, “Quotations From Charlie Chan,” was published as a companion to the documentary. It contains many of the kitschy sayings the character used when talking to his “No. 1 Son.”

1. Most mysterious is what mankind does to itself for reasons difficult to understand 2. Mind, like parachute, only function when open 3. Little knowledge sometimes very dangerous possession 4. Favorite pastime of man is fooling himself 5. Optimist only sees doughnut, pessimist sees hole. 6. Sometimes very small cloud hide sun 7. Theories like fingerprints...everybody has them. 8. Theory like mist on eyeglasses - obscures facts.

44 posted on 03/13/2010 5:21:57 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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