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D.C. hospital fires 11 nurses, 5 staffers for snowstorm absences
Washington Post ^ | 2/27/2010 | Theresa Vargas

Posted on 02/27/2010 7:33:36 PM PST by Saije

The District's largest private hospital has fired 11 nurses and five support staff members who failed to make it to work during the back-to-back snowstorms that paralyzed the region earlier this month.

Dozens of staff members at Washington Hospital Center face internal investigations, union representatives say, and it is unclear how many employees will lose their jobs. On Friday, the nurses union, Nurses United of the National Capital Region, filed a class-action grievance with the hospital.

"I see it as so unfair and uncaring," said Shirley Ricks, a 57-year-old nurse who has spent her entire career at the hospital. "That's it. You call in one day in the biggest snowstorm in history and you're out. No ifs, ands or buts about it. . . . You go from getting a salary every two weeks to nothing. It's scary."

In a letter sent to the staff on Friday, hospital President Harry J. Rider sought to quell rumors that hundreds of people had been fired. He said he expects fewer than 20 people will be dismissed.

"Sadly, we did experience some issue with associates who did not show the same commitment as most of their co-workers to the community, our patients and their fellow associates. They are the few who turned away from their scheduled shifts and who tried -- and are still trying -- to turn the focus on themselves rather than the thousands of Washington Hospital Center workers who fulfilled their commitment to their patients and colleagues, and made it to work," he wrote.

Hospital spokeswoman So Young Pak said she could not comment on specific cases or personnel issues, but "we do not terminate any associates without a fair process. We always review the entire situation with the final decision based on all facts and circumstances."

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To: Saije

Hospitals need to be staffed - especially during an emergency. The point is to serve the needs of patients - not the union members.


81 posted on 02/28/2010 12:41:54 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Saije
Washington Hospital Center is probably the top hospital in the U.S., maybe top 5 across the board. Apparently they have very rigid standards to keep that rating.

Certainly, with a little planning, the employees w/o 4WD could have networked with others and made arrangements to get rides to work. OTOH, maybe these few were not dependable employees and now the hospital has a good reason to get rid of them. It's not like these people couldn't walk into any other hospital and not be hired on the spot.

82 posted on 02/28/2010 1:14:53 PM PST by rabidralph ("Precedenting" is a lot tougher than community organizing.)
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To: JohnD9207
According to later reports (by employees on a WashPost thread on this story) doctors believed there to be a pickup and drop off policy AND that the hospital had negotiated a special rate with some nearby hotels ($99 a night).

Contrast this with other area hospitals that made way for employees to stay at the hospital ~ very common during these storms.

BTW, the story is this hospital never informed anyone but the doctors of the special hotel rates so nurses who stayed over actually slept on tiled cement floors.

The depth of the snow throughout the Metro area varied from 28" to 48" (by the time the last storm rolled through). We didn't get dug out around here for two weeks and then it took a large Komatsu frontloader (with a thousand horse engine on the back).

Same with parts of Montgomery county, and the residential areas of DC. Many residential streets simply never got dug out.

Like to point out something very important here, residents of DC pay an income tax. They also pay (directly or indirectly through landlords) substantial property taxes. It's the taxpayers money that's used to clear the roads.

In order of priority the DC government cleared the interstates, then the main roads around Capitol Hill (for Nancy Pelosi), then the main roads around the White House and Smithsonian.

Then they began working on the primaries where you find such places as Washington Hospital Center (WHC).

WHC is a nonprofit private foundation. IT PAYS NO TAXES OF ANY KIND.

See where I'm going. WHC, complaining about how its employees got to work, was dug out two weeks before they were! Yet, they paid nothing.

From the standpoint of fundamental equity and fairness (even Republican fairness if you will), WHC doesn't have a leg to stand on. They paid nothing to get dug out yet their employees paid to do that even when they got no service at all for their taxes.

In the future it'd be better to LEAVE WHC piled to the ying-yang with snow and ice and dig out the taxpayers!

83 posted on 02/28/2010 5:12:32 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: JohnD9207
I'm happy you could drive 10 MPH through a storm. After a couple of passes by a very large 15 ton truck, our snow got mashed down to a foot of ice one lane wide ~ but that was THREE DAYS into the storm.

I spent a lot of time digging neighbors out of the ice and snow because they thought it was OK to drive on ice without ESC.

It's not.

You would have ended up in the 7 foot drift around the corner ~ and there'd been no one who could help you.

It seems to me you have no idea what happened around here!

84 posted on 02/28/2010 5:16:38 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Dasaji
Virtually NO hospitals in the United States are "businesses". They are mostly non-profits. The second category are government owned.

That's what the Obamistas are after ~ the untapped revenue source government, foundation, church and school owned hospitals can be.

Obama's crowd intend to tap into it with the tax on "cadillac insurance policies". Those are the ones that pay your hospital bills. The non-cadillac policies have large deductibles and co-pays.

85 posted on 02/28/2010 5:23:54 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Earthdweller
WHC is already unionized. As they say management gets the union it deserves.

These guys were actually worse before their management team was absorbed into Med-Star.

86 posted on 02/28/2010 5:25:05 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Integrityrocks
Someday you'll have a large urban area and discover 46 feet of snow is no laughing matter.

Besides, no one with any sense builds in such a place. My ancestors who lived in Oswego NY left there 200 years ago due to the snow ~ the NEVER ENDING lake effect snow that can make that stuff you sometimes get in Alaska look like a dusting.

They lived under a 50 foot snow one too many times. If you are doing that time to move!

87 posted on 02/28/2010 5:28:29 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: JohnD9207
Yup, the police and emergency vehicles were stuck.

You ever been in a 48" fall of new, wet, icy snow?

You need a 5 to 15 ton truck to blaze a trail ~ at a minimum.

Not far away (Frederick Maryland) we had motorists and truckers both STUCK on the highway for days. There were people badly hurt up there and no one, not even a helicopter, could get to them.

This was a record breaking snowfall.

I just can't get over the fact they have a management at WHC who is still blissfully unaware of what went on in this region. What they've said and what they've done makes them sound ..... well.... seriously mentally ill.

I don't think people are safe going to WHC.

88 posted on 02/28/2010 5:41:20 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: lowbridge; DanielRedfoot
The writer was trying to trick you into thinking WHC was a "private for profit" hospital.

It's not.

Humana could straighten this place out in a few days ~ first they'd fire the managers. Then they'd fire the managers' wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, and husbands working elsewhere in the hospital.

That seems to have always been the difficulty with WHC ~ management simply isn't prepared to run a hospital.

89 posted on 02/28/2010 5:45:46 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: rabidralph

WHC hasn’t been in the top 5 anywhere for a very long time. The DC area has a good number of high quality hospitals ~ in Fairfax County!


90 posted on 02/28/2010 5:47:38 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: blackbart.223

“I notice no government slugs suffered the same fate. They were paid to stay home. What is wrong with this picture?”

I had a gov’t job for years where I was emergency/essential personnel. I was expected to show up or at least try very hard even when the rest of the gov’t was closed. One day when we had about a foot of snow I couldn’t get in. After that I bought a big SUV and never missed a day for weather.

The days that the gov’t was closed, trust me, it was a wise decision. The streets were impassable and I’m sure many lives were saved by telling people to stay home.


91 posted on 02/28/2010 6:06:51 PM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: muawiyah

Yes I have been in 48” of snow...so your point is...let the patients suffer?

Most of the employees made it to work that morning, I wonder how they did it? Of course some were staff who got stuck in the hospital during the storm. Bet you folks managed to get into the ER for treatment.

You do what you have to do to take care of the patients. I have been a nurse in states that get snow, Michigan and Kansas to name two. Here in Dallas when we get 2” of snow and ice mix people call in. Its common place to find 1 nurse call in, and another come in and they live within 5 blocks of each other.


92 posted on 02/28/2010 7:25:37 PM PST by JohnD9207 (REGISTERED RIGHT WING THUG!)
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To: PLMerite
"After that I bought a big SUV and never missed a day for weather.

Don't let Al or Obama find out. You might be in the cross hairs.

93 posted on 02/28/2010 7:30:25 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: JohnD9207
First off, it's a big hospital with lots of redundancy. Secondly all elective surgery was canceled. Thirdly, ER operations throughout the region pretty much ground to a halt ~ with no people on the road or "doing stuff", there were simply fewer needs for ER, and Fur shur, you didn't have a bunch of illegals out wandering around trying to get free medical care.

Regarding motor vehicles that can scoot around in 48" of snow, they are called large trucks and earth moving equipment.

No, your typical nurse couldn't just go out to the curb, dig her car out, and go anywhere.

In this area the 12 hour nursing shift is standard. No patients were deprived of care. The people who got to work "the next morning" were already there. They stayed. Pretty obvious to anyone in this part of the country there was no way they could get home!

Still, if the hospital wants to get its people to work they'd best pay to get DC streets cleared ~

94 posted on 02/28/2010 8:44:13 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah

My mistake. I haven’t lived in the area for about five years now.


95 posted on 02/28/2010 8:45:01 PM PST by rabidralph ("Precedenting" is a lot tougher than community organizing.)
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To: PLMerite; blackbart.223
The day the government opened up the morning Rush Hour lasted from about 4 AM to something like 1 PM along the I95 corridor. The evening Rush Hour started about 3PM and was still going on Saturday morning when we managed to break out of here and get over to I95.

A commuter to L'enfant plaza from Springfield could have spent about 18 hours "commuting" to get in 4 hours of work.

96 posted on 02/28/2010 8:47:27 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: rabidralph
Look, we had to make use of WHC about 20 years back for something not offered at Fairfax.

Today we wouldn't go to WHC for anything.

97 posted on 02/28/2010 8:50:09 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah

My family has used the hospital within the past few years and they’ve had no complaints. Georgetown is very good as well.


98 posted on 02/28/2010 9:05:02 PM PST by rabidralph ("Precedenting" is a lot tougher than community organizing.)
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To: rabidralph

I didn’t say they’e bad. Just that there’s no longer any reason why we’d use the place. We have 3 of the “top 50” in the country right here.


99 posted on 03/01/2010 4:41:53 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah
See where I'm going. WHC, complaining about how its employees got to work, was dug out two weeks before they were! Yet, they paid nothing

Oh, my the times have changed! Used to be participants on this forum were curious and skeptical about "factual" reports in the Washington Post.

An enterprising soul may try to find out the following:

1. How much money did the hospital spend on transportation of staff to work?

2. How much money did the hospital spend on snow clearance activities?

3. Why does one of our heroes give conflicting accounts to Fox 5 News and the WaPo?

4. Why were only a handful of employees terminated out of 700+ who failed to report as scheduled?

5. Why does the Post quote a union official regarding the performance evaluation of one affected employee, and how does that official have access to private information not distributed to either the union or the public?

I'd like to give you the short answer: this isn't a story. It's sensationalistic BS, and many of you are idiots for falling for it.

100 posted on 03/01/2010 3:24:53 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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