Posted on 02/26/2010 2:17:41 PM PST by JoeProBono
Reping to Van Gogh
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Authenticated and finally accepted by critics
Years after the owner died
At least it is realistic looking. Starry Night never impressed me, sad to say.
And another one. The faces are featureless, as in the newly-authenticated one.
Here's the EXACT same scene as the new one. Again, different color palette. The new one just doesn't look like a Van Gogh color palette to me.
All of the paintings I'm looking at are from 1886, the year the authenticator says the new one is from. Perhaps Van Gogh and a fellow artist went out painting one day, and painted the same scene. Or, he and another artist painted the same scene separately. As much as I like the painting, it just doesn't look like Van Gogh's color palette to me.
I've seen these authenticators make mistakes before.
And when did Van Gogh ever paint women's dresses that way? And why isn't the painting signed? Just because it's stamped from an art store that Van Gogh went to, and it uses some of the same pigments - that doesn't necessarily mean it's by Van Gogh. More likely, a fellow artist.
Read his biography, what he was doing in 1886. He was working with a group of artists. The painting is more than likely the work of one of them.
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Spacey Spacey Night?
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Too many brush strokes painting a rose?
Shoot, I'd try to show the veins in a leaf, lolol.
I evolved and there are tricks. You can make bark on a tree using a pallet knife.
Someone commented on the heavy 3-D look of some blossoms. Heavy paint in areas is effective, but oil paint takes forever to dry.
I gave away my wooden paint box and all the stuff to my grandaughter!!
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LOL!
No hoarding of stuff you do not use?
Hadn’t painted in years since I discovered the computer and computer graphics.
Ummm, yeah, I hoard clothes, shoes, women’s stuff, lol. But plenty of space to do it in.
See if you can find Van Gogh among the dozens of artists.
I think it was one of these other artists who painted the painting that has been ascribed to Van Gogh. Because, really, when did you ever see Van Gogh paint women's dresses so colorfully, and with such a light touch?
The only thing that gives me pause are the featureless faces. There is also a similarity of the windmill itself, to his other windmill paintings.
I'm still looking, though - trying to find out who it could be. It might be an unknown - one of those men at the atelier.
If you lay out all his paintings, in a row, chronologically - this one would come as a surprise.
I'm also wondering why Van Gogh didn't sign this painting? And if he signed all his others?
A starry night is Van Gogh’s most famous and over rated painting.
I just noticed that the curator himself thinks the painting was unusual for a Van Gogh.
I would like to know what markers they used to authenticate it, other than the art store stamp and the pigments. What about stylistic markers?
I see Cormon himself, at the easel. Van Gogh is NOT the one crouching in front of Cormon with an easel, contrary to what another internetter thinks. If you follow a straight line from Cormon's head, Van Gogh is 3 heads behind him (with a long space between Van Gogh and the person in front of him). I also see Toulouse-Lautrec, right in the front with a bowler hat. As a comparison, see this [one photo contains nudity - NOT safe for work - scroll down to see Toulouse-Lautrec - don't click if you're offended by nudity].
If anyone has any ideas on who some of the others might be...
Do you paint?
No, I have an art history background. Hope I’m not annoying you with my posts. My only connection with Van Gogh is that I enjoy a lot of his work, and I’ve read all of his letters. It annoys me when people “authenticate” things innacurately. I read last year that an authenticator identified someone in a photograph (it’s in one of my dead computers, and I can’t remember who it was) and it clearly was not the person.
Not at all. I enjoy your posts.
I paint and when one compares my early and later “works” the differences can be profound. Some I signed and some I didn’t. ;-{)
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