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Without a full birth certificate and school records, Article II eligibility indeterminable.
Posted on 02/24/2010 8:03:58 PM PST by capacommie
Now that the Hawaii Deputy Attorney General spokesperson has refused to corroborate Janice Fukino's statement that Obama was born in Hawaii, and Fukino has refused to abide Hawaii laws in providing a non-certified duplicate of the COLB which Obama already published in non-redacted form...
we do not know where he was born.
And also, without school records, which Obama refuses to provide, and without a birth certificate, we do not know if he's been in the country for 14 years total, or technically if he's reached the age of 35 (verified by certified documentation).
In short, Obama has not one single shred of evidence to prove he is eligible to be president. And his twice published admission against interest that he was born British is evidence that he is INeligible.
Obama's got nada.
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KEYWORDS: certifigate; dunham; hawaii; hawaiihatesamerica; hawaiiisevil; hawaiivsamerica; obama; soetoro
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To: hennie pennie; justiceseeker93
Now that the Hawaii Deputy Attorney General spokesperson has refused to corroborate Janice Fukino's statement that Obama was born in Hawaii, and Fukino has refused to abide Hawaii laws in providing a non-certified duplicate of the COLB which Obama already published in non-redacted form...
we do not know where he was born.
And also, without school records, which Obama refuses to provide, and without a birth certificate, we do not know if he's been in the country for 14 years total, or technically if he's reached the age of 35 (verified by certified documentation).
In short, Obama has not one single shred of evidence to prove he is eligible to be president. And his twice published admission against interest that he was born British is evidence that he is INeligible.
Obama's got nada.
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posted on
02/25/2010 4:21:25 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Freedom is Priceless.)
To: KDD
Why do you keep posting that the Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, vouched for the Obama COLB when it is not true?
To: john mirse
——”Does anyone know the name of George Bush,the son, birth doctor and the name of his birth hospital?”——
Well, you could try the “Texas State Library and Archives Commission.”
They show a listing for, I assume, Bush’s birth certificate in their archives:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/tslac/40090/tsl-40090.html
BTW - Bush was born in Yale New Haven Hospital - New Haven, CT.
Cheers
To: Jude in WV; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; pissant; LucyT; Beckwith; BP2; patriot08; Candor7; george76; ...
While it may be true that RINO Governor Lingle never vouched for the Obama COLB, it is not difficult to see that Lingle is likely behind the machinations of Fukima and Okubo in obfuscating the content of the records in possession of the Hawaii DOH. After all, Fukima is a Lingle appointee, so absent any indication to the contrary, she takes orders from Lingle.
Lingle is sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States, which takes precedence over Obama's alleged right to confidentiality in his his birth record which Hawaii state law is claimed to give him.
To: MissTickly; butterdezillion; All
Please see my post # 24.
To: capacommie
Without a full birth certificate and school records, Article II eligibility indeterminable.
Nonsense.
It's 97% certain that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. There's a 40% chance he was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center, a 40% chance he was born at the Queens Hospital, and a 17% chance he was born at home (you can supply your own numbers). No Honolulu hospital has a record of Obama or mother ever being there. There's also a 2% chance that Obama was born in Kenya, and a 1% chance he was born in Vancouver, BC. Wherever he was born, he had one American citizen parent and one Kenyan citizen parent. An Indonesian adoption could further complicate Obama's status.
At birth, Barack Obama gets his citizenship via the 14th Amendment (assuming Hawaii):
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Obama also has his citizenship defined via the Immigration and Nationality Act -- "by statute."
Sec. 305. [8 U.S.C. 1405] Persons born in Hawaii:
A person born in Hawaii on or after August 12, 1898, and before April 30, 1900, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900.
At birth, Barack Obama was also a Kenyan citizen and a subject of Great Britain:
"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
The implications of a Soetoro adoption:
Under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son, in this case Soetoro/Obama, an Indonesian State citizen. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958 concerning Immigration Affairs and Indonesian Civil Code (Kitab Undang-undang Hukum Perdata) (KUHPer) (Burgerlijk Wetboek voor Indonesie).
The implications of Kenyan or British Columbian birth:
Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1405] Nationals and Citizens of the United States at Birth:
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
This case meets the test of jus soli -- born in the USA (97%)
This case fails the test of jus sanguinis -- one or both parents are NOT US citizens
This person is NOT a "natural born" citizen and is NOT eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.
Be sure to click this link:
The circumstances of Obama life, and how they affect citizenship
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posted on
02/25/2010 2:56:14 PM PST
by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
To: Beckwith
Hi Beckwith!
I don’t disagree with anything you wrote...he’s ineligible per his British citizenship.
However what I’m getting at is a far simpler approach, he can’t even prove he’s 35 or been a resident for 14 years.
So he has nothing to prove he IS eligible, and his admissions to prove he IS NOT eligible.
Remember, the bots were always keeping focus onto the BC, but now that HI won’t vouch for it, they have absolutely nothing.
To: justiceseeker93; LucyT; Beckwith; mojitojoe; Fred Nerks
Oh yes, here we have propaganda set to discourage all who want the Constitution to apply. Buahahahahahahaa.
Too late, its now on the move, has legs, and is unstoppable.Even AnneCoulter is talking about it.The Arizina legislature ius talking about it.
Only a a matter of time.Obama should be drawing up his resignation speech.He can use Nixon's as a template.
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posted on
02/25/2010 3:25:25 PM PST
by
Candor7
(((The effective weapons against Oba- Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA)))
To: Candor7
Except he won’t be able say that he isn’t a criminal.
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posted on
02/25/2010 3:41:35 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
To: Candor7
He’s behind schedule IMO. What happened to the ‘created crisis’ that was going to ‘test him’ as per the statement made by the idiot VP?
He’ll only resign if he can’t get his ‘created crisis’ off the ramp quick enough to destroy the Constitution via martial or emergency law.
What’s going to come first? Exposure or Chaos...or a combination of both?
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posted on
02/25/2010 3:45:39 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(fair dinkum!)
To: Fred Nerks
Obama will go for the chaos, as soon as he hears the demand for his COLB coming. He is a man with a plan.
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posted on
02/25/2010 4:43:51 PM PST
by
Candor7
(A)
To: KDD
The Houses of Congress, who have the Constitutional power to remove presidents from office, wisely chose to delagate that power to the District Court of Washington, D.C. in cases of a possible usurper to the office of the Presidency. There a president can be sued, under Quo Warranto, to prove his/her eligibility.
There were two cases in the 19th century when U.S.Senators who were not eligible had to be removed from office. This method, Quo Warranto, was later chosen as it would remove cases from Congress where political considerations would interfere in a decision.
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posted on
02/25/2010 4:46:29 PM PST
by
SatinDoll
(NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
To: Candor7
That’s what I am afraid of. He will NOT go quietly in the face of exposure, and he cannot afford to lose an election (one he cannot possibly stand for, if a birth certificate is a requirement for eligibility)if he resigns, he leaves the door open to investigation of his origin, something he can control NOW but not once he has vacated the post that provides the power to control and conceal...his brief from his marxist/islamofascist handlers is SOCIALISM with a wide-open door for ISLAM.
What’s he gunna do?
Maybe it all depends on how much blood the DNC is prepared to have on their hands...
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posted on
02/25/2010 4:58:58 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(fair dinkum!)
To: capacommie
I think his senate schedule and details of law license is also off limits. Must be some whopper of a secret.
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posted on
02/25/2010 5:08:29 PM PST
by
opentalk
To: opentalk
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posted on
02/25/2010 5:09:23 PM PST
by
opentalk
To: Fred Nerks
Yeah, I’d forgotten about that “crisis” that would “test him”.
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posted on
02/25/2010 5:21:26 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
To: capacommie
Re: “However what Im getting at is a far simpler approach, he cant even prove hes 35 or been a resident for 14 years.”
This isn't a zero sum game.
Lots of folks on this forum have a pet theory or two, and see that as the only or best approach.
Since we don't know which straw will break the camel's back, I like to encourage all to pursue whatever tack they feel will work for them.
Obama will not be brought down by a single stroke, but by the death of a thousand cuts.
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posted on
02/26/2010 2:52:20 AM PST
by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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