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Sick of the "birthers" being the du jour whipping post (Beck, O'Reilly, even Palin did not defend)

Posted on 02/16/2010 5:38:20 PM PST by cycle of discernment

You know, I've just about had it with Mr. 'Due Diligence', Mr "Research your brains out', Glenn Beck --mercilessly going after the genuine questions about Obama's veiled past as "lunatic", fringe, insane--including the MIA birth certificate and the missing, contradictory and veiled Obama personal, professional and academic records.

He and O'Reilly are beginning to protest too damn much...the TRUTH of the matter is that there are LEGION of murky questions surroundiong Obama. It is conspicuously bizarre the way they are behaving about it--overdoing the "hostility", the ridicule.

Since Beck is so quick to castigate and dismiss the so-called much maligned, "birthers"---then PROVE it is nonsense with real hard core data and info--debunk the swirl with counter-evidence--answer the gaps--let's see one of his famous research shows on this 'raging through the underground' topic, eh?

WHY NOT BECK?


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To: cycle of discernment

This is not the first “unanswered question” this nation has faced that will likely never get an effective (or fully truthful) answer.

I suspect that at least some of the distancing these people are putting between themselves and the “birther movement” is that they know that it is going nowhere. As has been posted before - so what IF some definitive proof came to light that took away all doubts and showed Obama to be illegally in office. Will anything come of it? I seriously doubt it. Were he a Republican - the question would have been answered already. In fact, I suspect that Obama’s race is an even larger part of the reason there are so many questions that have gone unanswered.

But again - Even with undeniable evidence, would anything come of it? Not enough backbone left in this country. So why would these folks invest political resources that won’t pay off even if they are correct?


41 posted on 02/16/2010 6:35:34 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Frantzie

Every point you made is exactly right and well-said!

You nailed it...a “10!”


42 posted on 02/16/2010 6:43:02 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 (Semper Fi!)
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To: TheBattman

So do we all just roll over and morph into a no-backbone species? Figuring it is a faits accomplis and just ‘too difficult” to expect truth or standards anymore?

Do we not even blink that the hightest office in the land might be occupied by one that has perpetuated fraud upon us? Or at minimum has been veiled and contradictory where he should clear and open.

We are ‘shunned” into not asking for politically sensitive answers anymore? Scary implications.

Feels like devolution under the thumb of others.


43 posted on 02/16/2010 6:43:49 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: eyeamok

I go with illegal alien, too. The Obummer uses a fraudulent SSAN number belonging to a Connecticut man long dead. Why doesn’t he have a legitimate SSAN? Probably because he couldn’t produce a legitimate birth certificate to get one. It is a Class C felony, with a 10 yr. jail sentence, to use a fraudulent SSAN according to bloggers on Drkatesview.


44 posted on 02/16/2010 6:44:15 PM PST by kiltie65
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To: Always Right

And what is a kook? I know of none in the birther movement. They just want the BC (long form) and cannot understand why they can’t get it since it is a requirement for the job. There are perfectly legit answers why Ozero cannot furnish that? I don’t know of any.


45 posted on 02/16/2010 6:44:18 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: El Sordo

Maybe we should have a constitutional amendment forbidding anyone to ask any office holders or candidates for their vital records.


46 posted on 02/16/2010 6:46:03 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. If what you are doing is worth anything, it should be worth saying out loud.)
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To: cycle of discernment

NO - but do we have to expect every Conservative or semi-conservative to invest political capital to a losing cause, detracting from other more pressing issues that CAN be changed or fixed?

I am deeply concerned that the Whitehouse is occupied by an enemy of The US and her Constitution. I am concerned that our current government is making the biggest move in its history to socialize this nation.

The fact that someone can even file to be on a primary ballot without showing definitive proof of eligibility is deeply offensive to me. One has to show more to run for a local school board.

But if we don’t get the message of conservatism out, then we will never hold a position to do anything about the broken system that enabled Barrak Hussain Muslim Brotherhood Communist Extremist Obama to even run for office.

What I would like to see is for some very secure high-placed Republicans make a full-blown push to get the truth. There is some reason Obama has paid so much money, and put up so many roadblocks to revealing any of the truth in his background. This goes WAY beyond privacy - as the American People, whether they want to know or not, deserve and need to know who is holding the highest office. No privacy issue trumps the People’s right to know.

Some people pick and choose their battles, so they can live to fight again. Others blow their whole arsenal on battles they cannot win - and forever are ruined.

But if the SCOTUS won’t even give a case a fair hearing - then what can Palin, Beck, or any of the others do? I would prefer that they not join the assault on the birthers. But I just can’t get too upset that they are not joining the fray to get to the birth certificate... Beck in particular has done more positive for the conservative movement than Rush, Hannity, or most others in recent history. Palin hasn’t really done anything of reals substance - but she can energize people - which we need.

But I won’t defend the neo-liberal O’Reilly. He claims to be conservative/libertarian, but acts more like a liberal than most anyone supposedly on the “right”.


47 posted on 02/16/2010 6:56:08 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Josephat
Beck always says to “Question with Boldness” and yet he will not step anywhere near this particular question and derrides people who do. Very odd. Who is pulling the strings?

Saudi prince plans more control over Fox News

Snip: The Saudi billionaire whose investment firm is one of the biggest stakeholders in Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. said he is looking to expand his alliances with the media giant, in the latest indication that his appetite for growth remains robust even as his company retrenches.

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a nephew of the Saudi king and who was listed last year by Forbes as the world's 22nd richest person, met with News Corp.'s chief executive Rupert Murdoch on Jan. 14 in a meeting that "touched upon future potential alliances with News Corp.," according to a statement released by his Kingdom Holding Co. late Saturday.

48 posted on 02/16/2010 6:57:12 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: reasonisfaith

Why?


49 posted on 02/16/2010 7:04:47 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: AlexW

“...there is no proof as to where he was born.”

It doesn’t matter “where” he was born. The issue is “to whom” he was born.

He was born to a British Subject; therefore, Barack Hussein Obama, II is himself a British Subject.


50 posted on 02/16/2010 7:05:18 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 (Semper Fi!)
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To: El Sordo
There will always be lots and lots of unanswered questions for people who refuse to accept rational answers to their questions.

When you find someone who can provide just one rational answer from your side in a court of law, please let us know.

51 posted on 02/16/2010 7:05:31 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: SuziQ

True, and the reason OReilly believes the “O” was born in Hawaii is a birth article posted by his grandmother in a Hawaii paper shortly after his birth. OReilly said the grandparentsmother could not have known he would run for for Pres, so why would they put in the article, if it weren’t true.
However, at that time all families announced births, and surely the family wanted him to have naturalization.

Personally, I am not a birther, and have no idea where the man was born...I’ll just wait ans see how it turns out, the truth always surfaces, eventually, if it hasn’t already.


52 posted on 02/16/2010 7:09:08 PM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: cycle of discernment

“He and O’Reilly are beginning to protest too damn much....”

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They’re receiving their orders from higher up. They’re in it for themselves and they’re doing a good job putting food on their tables. Why should they rock the boat?


53 posted on 02/16/2010 7:11:32 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: cycle of discernment
Answer these questions with boldness, Glenn. Or STFU.

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

54 posted on 02/16/2010 7:14:26 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: cycle of discernment

These jerks have to pick on something like this to show how “mainstream” they are. O’Reilly says he’s researched it and, take it from him, there’s nothing to it. But he never says what he’s done or answers the many legitimate questions. First of all, he never explains why Obama has gone to such extraordinary pains to conceal his past. What is he hiding? They don’t explain.
I am not required to cede my right to question to any tv pundit no matter how much $ they make.


55 posted on 02/16/2010 7:15:53 PM PST by Rsgood Dsbad
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To: MamaDearest

Good point Mama.
I can’t think of any American—even on the left!—who would kowtow to a Saudi princeling ... much less our president.
Ever hear the story of the Oriental potentate who installed a door so small that visitors had to crawl on their hands and knees to enter? Americans solved the problem by entering a** first. It may be just a story but I like to think it’s true.
The House of Saud doesn’t want their obsequious Brother removed, so they make it clear they don’t want any of this talk on Fox about how Obama could be a `Manchurian’ fraud.
`We Report, You Decide’ All your base, Fox!


56 posted on 02/16/2010 7:16:05 PM PST by tumblindice (You saw the movie, `Guns'! You watched the sequel, `Ammo'! Coming Soon: `Body Armor'!)
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To: cycle of discernment

Beck lost me. Our tv goes off now when Beck comes on. He’s a loon, full of himself just like BO.


57 posted on 02/16/2010 7:16:13 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: cycle of discernment

There is nothing we can do about it... and to have them concentrate on that takes attention from pressing issues like him turning NASA into a version of the state department or people like Van Jones...


58 posted on 02/16/2010 7:22:47 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Uncle Chip

What about outside a court of law?


59 posted on 02/16/2010 7:27:25 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: tumblindice

I forget where I read it but some blog where they speculated that his mother was a CIA cutout. The thought was she was supposed to infiltrate black groups and later third world areas. It was almost like her mission changed after the Black Panthers in the 1960s were eventually shut down.

I once knew someone who knew a friend. They were murdered in a third world country. They had sort of a global drifter job. They were smart but this person was almost grunge at the time. Intelligence agents do not look like Bond. Their job is to become invisble and blend into the background. We later were convinced this person was in intelligence.

The whole Obama family is far far too weird. The Ford Foundation connections including the Geithner family. The Ford Foundation was filled with spooks or connected people. Airline pilots and aid workers (Ford Foundation).

Obama was a total set up but we have no idea who is pulling the strings. Soros is one of the people. He gets inside information in probably every western govt.


60 posted on 02/16/2010 7:35:31 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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