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Will the new Obama high speed train from Chicago to St. Louis have high speed toilets?

The Pantagraph

Protesters question high-speed rail in the face of budget deficits

By Mary Ann Ford | mford@pantagraph.com | Posted: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:00 pm

NORMAL — Not everyone at Friday’s news conference supported spending $8 billion for high-speed rail.

Several people gathered at the Amtrak station held signs and even made negative comments while Sen. Dick Durbin was speaking. They questioned projections of economic growth from high-speed rail spending and the wisdom of spending so much money in the face of mounting state and federal budget deficits.

“I’m really upset,” said Jeff Strange of Bloomington.

While officials say the money will help produce jobs and bring economic development, Strange said similar systems in other countries don’t work and taxpayers end up paying.

In addition, he said, the claim that a $1 billion infusion will produce 20,000 jobs is based on freight rail, not high-speed passenger rail.

Don Tolan of Minonk held a sign that read: “Quit spending my money, my kids’ money, their kids’ money, their kids’ money, their kids’ money.”

“I’m tired of politicians spending money like there’s no limit,” he said. “We’ve doubled our deficit in one year.”

Plane or train?

Laura McNeil of Normal also held a sign, but not to protest high-speed rail.

“I’m bothered by the fact they’re here to promote Amtrak but they didn’t ride the train,” she said.

Gov. Pat Quinn, Durbin and several other officials at the conference flew from Chicago to Alton and then to Normal to talk about the $1.2 billion the state received from the high-speed rail stimulus plan President Barack Obama unveiled Thursday.

McNeil said riding the train would be much cheaper — something the state should be thinking about in the midst of its budget.

“Last year, my kids got $4,000 in MAP grants,” she said, referring to the state’s Monetary Award Program for college students. “This year, they got nothing.”

Quinn and Durbin said using the plane was a matter of scheduling.

“I’m the governor of Illinois,” Quinn said. “I can’t spend all my time on one thing.”

Quinn said besides spreading the message about high-speed rail Friday, he also had to work on the state’s budget.


15 posted on 01/30/2010 7:52:15 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
“I’m the governor of Illinois,”

LOL

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!?

17 posted on 01/30/2010 8:12:50 AM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: KeyLargo

“Spain has spent over 200 BILLION in developing intercity rail.”

Spain is about 195,000 square miles, Texas about 270,000 square miles, Illinois about 58,000.

One BILLION dollars are proposed for a Chicago to St Louis upgrade from 80 MPH to 110 MPH.

A cheap ticket is $25 for this route.

One BILLION dollars equals 40 million rides!

Cut the price to $12.50, so as not to make it a rolling homeless bin. Place the 1B $ in the ol’ lock box at 3%.

Hammer them on any upgrade, many will be available.


22 posted on 01/30/2010 9:08:41 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: KeyLargo
McNeil said riding the train would be much cheaper — something the state should be thinking about in the midst of its budget.

Lol. Train?

28 posted on 01/30/2010 10:26:17 AM PST by csvset
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To: KeyLargo; Slings and Arrows

I’ve been looking for a thread to post this on, but all I keep seeing are references to this high-speed rail within other threads! Oh well... I’m going to post it anyway.

You know, it would seem that Obama never saw the “Marge vs. The Monorail” episode.

Monorail Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw

Marge vs. Monorail @ Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_vs._the_Monorail


40 posted on 01/31/2010 2:32:13 AM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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