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1 posted on 01/23/2010 1:12:58 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer

No. The redlight cameras are there at the permisson of your state govt. The state cannot be sued under RICO unless it wants to.


2 posted on 01/23/2010 1:14:54 PM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: Neidermeyer

Oh, and to further disappoint you around half of the freedom loving members of Free Republic support red light cameras because their is no freedom more precious to them than insuring their own safety.


4 posted on 01/23/2010 1:19:44 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: Neidermeyer

The state likely cannot be sued because of the 11th Amendment, but local governments may be liable under certain circumstances.
I don’t care for these rackets either.
Here in TX they try to enforce the red light tickets like any other ticket in some areas.
I can beat them in court but it’s a pain.


5 posted on 01/23/2010 1:21:21 PM PST by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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I heard that in Illinois there is a group of PO’ed citizens trying to legally get rid of the red light camera cash machines. Might try a search of the subject with Illinois and see if the people fighting it there are having any luck. I believe I saw this being discussed on FoxNews with the man who got fed up with the camera scam in his city. Story aired in the last few months. He was very determined and had other citizens helping him.


9 posted on 01/23/2010 1:28:05 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,then they fight you, then you WIN." Ghandi)
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There is a lawyer here in Houston that tried to sue over the red light camera issue, but I don't think he was successful. I think they were finally able to get the city to release their records about accidents that occur at red light camera intersections, so it may have some life left in it. (City wanted to keep the information a secret.)

A few years ago, the state did pass some legislation that requires a law enforcement officer to review the camera footage before a citation can be issued. Citations don't go on your driving record. The attorneys are Randall Kallinen and Paul Kubosh.

10 posted on 01/23/2010 1:29:13 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... www.filipthishouse2010.com)
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Did you receive a traffic citation?
11 posted on 01/23/2010 1:34:54 PM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Neidermeyer

Now it would be hazardous to ones health to walk up to a cop and smear a light coating of Vaseline on his sun glasses, he could be there and arrest you.
Now if one (hypothetically of course) were to go for a walk around their city with a walking stick in their hand that just happen to have a a swab of vaseline and casually (out of camera shot) wiped it across the lens, they would have taken many pictures but none identifiable. Now how often they check how clean the lens is? who knows but if it happened repeatedly they would have to post someone to watch for that. Thus undermining the cost savings of having a cop sit 24/7 at that corner.


14 posted on 01/23/2010 1:49:37 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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If you can prove that the yellow lights on those traffic signals are indeed shorter than what is required by law, then you probably have a case, albeit not under RICO. But if you find that the yellow lights are the length of time required by the law, you are most likely SOL.


17 posted on 01/23/2010 2:04:24 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Neidermeyer

The congress in Washington is a racketeer group, and some states as well, but crooks aren’t going to make laws that let citizens get them for being crooks. So you will not be able to sue under RICO because it protects the crooks who made the RICO laws.


19 posted on 01/23/2010 2:04:52 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: Neidermeyer
There is also a provision for private parties to sue. A "person damaged in his business or property" can sue one or more "racketeers." The plaintiff must prove the existence of a "criminal enterprise."

That would be pretty difficult.

20 posted on 01/23/2010 2:07:55 PM PST by Batrachian
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If they were really interested in safety they wouldn’t wait up to three weeks before sending a ticket to someone that was caught speeding. That means the person that was driving unsafe continued to drive unsafe for 3 weeks. This is all about revenue.

I got one of these things and fumed and fussed about it for about 2 weeks. First I was just not going to pay it, then I was going to fight it. When I found out it would take a day off from work to go down and wait in line until I could see a picture of me before I could fight it that was it.

I decided I would just go ahead a pay the darn thing. I sent the check in and got the check back about a week later.

There was part of the law that stated if the person didn’t voluntarily pay it within 21 days that a warrant would have to be issued prior to taking the person to court to get the money.

Since I do not live in the town that I got the ticket, they couldn’t issue a warrant outside the city limits. Therefore they returned my check to me and I did not owe anything.

Because I waited to pay it until it was considered late, I didn’t owe anything. Now how convuluted is that?


23 posted on 01/23/2010 4:11:37 PM PST by ODDITHER (HAT)
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Around Phoenix Az they have speed cameras and everyone just ignores the tickets and they can’t really do anything about it and they’re losing big bucks.


26 posted on 01/23/2010 7:07:34 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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