Deal with facts, not Romney's religion, RomneyBOT.
Posted on 01/20/2010 2:42:05 AM PST by tlb
The dem campaign tried to portray Brown as a right wing Neanderthal. As far as I can tell from a distance, he in reality is a centrist mildly leaning to the left.
For that particular state in 2010 this may be their idea of a conservative, but it's difficult to imagine anybody like an actual across the board conservative winning this election. Even against Coakley.
The only big political name from outside the state he brought in to campaign was bogeyman Rudy Giuliani. He seems tight with Mitt Romney and Romney policies. In his victory speech he prominently and unreservedly praised Ted Kennedy. He's spoken in favor of alternative green energy technologies and has said the battle over gay marriage in the state is settled. And at some point you can depend the Obama administration will find issues his state would wish and demand he support. That's a lot of failed litmus tests for both the purists and the paulists.
Will people accept the reality that a centrist is better then a Kennedy Machine puppet? Or can we look forward yet again to Truth Files, barrages of RINO and traitor accusations, and snide and petty posts about his nude modeling photos.
Once the health bill is settled it will be interesting to see how long before the sugar buzz ends and the daggers come out.
Your Legion of RomneyBOTs should consider leaving Sen. Brown alone
and leaving Gov. Palin alone.
Can't you just get a blow up doll of Mitt?
If we don't get over this "only the purest of the pure" should be elected, then we will continue with this hateful food fight type politics.
Fact is, we have to get better about delivering our message.
This is not about Brown being a Republican. Its about Brown not being a conservative. Regardless of political persuasion or political ideology, there are many folks who serve in the US military and are patriotic Americans who want what is best for America. That is not the issue.
Since Massachusetts already has its own version of socialized medicine in RomneyCare, Scott Brown sees no upside and no benefit to ObamaCare for the residents of his home state. That is the rationale he’s using in opposing ObamaCare, albeit, only in its current form. What happens down the road is anyones guess.
That is the same argument you keep making with Willard the Myth. At some point you’ve got to come up with something better.
Pushing political expediency over principled conservatism is no virtue.
Pardon me but it is "toe the line" not "tow". The expression comes from the old prize fighting days(back in the 19th and early 20th century and probably before that)when the fighters had to "toe the line", which was a line drawn in the dirt. Fighters had to put their toes on the mark to start the round, they weren't allowed to bounce around until after the starting bell had rung, not that they did much foot work back then anyway.
If the fighter failed to "toe the line"(sometimes called the mark)he was judged the loser of the match.
Just a little history lesson because I think our history should be preserved and not distorted.
Oh for crying out loud. All the pot-stirring and backstabbing, and the guy hasn’t even been certified yet, to my knowledge. And your deliberate attempt to get it rolling is very unhelpful, especially by sliming Free Republic. Why are you here, if you have that poor of an opinion of the place? Get over yourself, please.
Brown’s candidacy ignited a constituency in Massachusetts that we scarcely believed to exist. If he follows through on his campaign rhetoric, Brown will provide the 41st vote on healthcare. That alone is cause for celebration.
Stop trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That goes for Michael “Magic Elixir” Steele and Mitt Romney, too. Those two have to know that rubbing the noses of those Tea Party activists who worked to get Brown elected, who donated their own hard earned money directly, is going to do nothing but cause further acrimony.
The whole partisan aftermath thing smells, and you guys started in less than an hour after Coakley conceded. I kept my mouth shut about Brown, personally, during the course of the election, and I’m happy that he won. He’s not my kind of conservative, but those are not at all common even here, let alone Massachusetts.
Celebrate the victory, note what worked in this campaign, and carry it forward. Also note the bandwagon apparatchiks looking to bask in the afterglow, and to coopt the meaning of this.
Republican gloating is very counterproductive at this point. There are certainly enough Republicans who are not especially conservative holding office in conservative states. We’re working to move the discourse steadily rightward as much as is possible in any given contest. We’ve moved the goalposts in Massachusetts. We’ll also move the goalposts in less liberal climes. So, their time is coming, too, these less than conservative Republicans in conservative states.
Get it?
You suggest we worship and support him regardless of his position on issues?
We don't have enough party groupies running around here doing that already?
Aside from what I’ve seen, he’s pretty solid except on abortion, which I can forgive in MA.
You are discussing a political attack. I am discussing personal attacks. If Romney is evil because of his abortion stand, then all candidates who have that stand must be evil. And why would we vote for a personally evil person?
If on the other hand we simply allow that, for political expediency, a bad view on abortion doesn’t make a person evil, just misguided, then we can reject them for positions where it matters, or where we can get a better candidate, but still not condemn the candidate as an evil baby-killing monster with the blood of the world on his hands.
I hope I have successfully conveyed my opinion of the distinction. i won’t criticize a person for rejecting a pro-abortion candidate for national office, and I won’t criticize people for not believing a conversion to a pro-life position. I only wish freepers would give people who are willing to believe in a conversion the same personal respect, even if they want to criticize them for being naive.
I’m fine with supporting “green” energy, even if the motivation for it is wrong (global warming). Alternative energy is a great idea, if it can WORK in an AFFORDABLE, USEFUL fashion.
It depends on how he handles it. If he goes full-bore Cap and Trade, no way...but if it’s as simple as offering tax incentives for it, fine.
Yup.
The enemy of my enemy is not neccessarily my friend.
And you have to come to grips with reality. The reality is that if we had followed your advice, Martha Coakley would have won last night and Obamacare and the rest of Obama’s Socialist ideas would have been forced down our throats, abortion and all. We would have been enslaved but hey, your principles would have been intact.
You are not supporting Conservatism by advocating the defeat of an imperfect Republican when the alternative is a Socialist. We need to take what we can get right now and build upon those successes until we have the kind of Conservatives we want. That’s how the Libs got to where they are now. We’ll never have true Conservatives in power if we insist upon perfection this very minute.
Deal with facts, not Romney's religion, RomneyBOT.
He’s a Republican. You know how it is when you deal with them... Trust but verify.
Romney Praises Palin -- (10/2/2008)
"her plain-spoken, common-sense approach will contrast sharply with Joe Biden’s, oh, wallowing in the words of Washington.”I think Sarah Palin has done a masterful job in reuniting the base of the Republican Party with the kind of enthusiasm that we had hoped for. She brought to the race, I think, the energy and the respect of the Republican base that John McCain wanted to draw, and as a result, you’ve seen large crowds, enthusiastic response, a spike in fundraising.”
Audio-Romney Praises Palin - 5/7/2009
"Sarah and Rush are two of the most influential members of our party and thank heavens for that. Sarah Palin brought a lot of interest and excitement and a lot of people to our party. She plays an important role in our party."
THere's more, but I know you aren't interested in facts.
Not sure whether defending Sarah Palin makes up for being pro-abortion.
As someone said last night, he’s a RINO, but he’s OUR RINO.
He’s probably still a lot better than Snowe, Collins, etc...and probably better than McCain on many issues.
While not someone who we’d want representing the state of Texas, he’s damn good for MA.
If you compare Brown on the issues, to Romney's presidential campaign issues list, I don't think you will find a single case where Brown's position is more conservative than Romney's was, and you will find at least one case (abortion) where Romney's position was more conservative.
I'm certainly not attacking Brown for that, I'm being pragmatic on the Brown victory.
I do suppose that if Brown backed Romney in 2012, many freepers would hold it against him. Maybe Brown will surprise us.
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