Posted on 01/20/2010 2:42:05 AM PST by tlb
The dem campaign tried to portray Brown as a right wing Neanderthal. As far as I can tell from a distance, he in reality is a centrist mildly leaning to the left.
For that particular state in 2010 this may be their idea of a conservative, but it's difficult to imagine anybody like an actual across the board conservative winning this election. Even against Coakley.
The only big political name from outside the state he brought in to campaign was bogeyman Rudy Giuliani. He seems tight with Mitt Romney and Romney policies. In his victory speech he prominently and unreservedly praised Ted Kennedy. He's spoken in favor of alternative green energy technologies and has said the battle over gay marriage in the state is settled. And at some point you can depend the Obama administration will find issues his state would wish and demand he support. That's a lot of failed litmus tests for both the purists and the paulists.
Will people accept the reality that a centrist is better then a Kennedy Machine puppet? Or can we look forward yet again to Truth Files, barrages of RINO and traitor accusations, and snide and petty posts about his nude modeling photos.
Once the health bill is settled it will be interesting to see how long before the sugar buzz ends and the daggers come out.
“It’s not easy for a local candidate to mount a statewide campaign, to build up an organization from scratch. Romney doesn’t “deserve the credit” for the win — but he does deserve the thanks he got from the candidate”
Insightful post. I think Romney is damaged goods due to his past views and the anchor of RomneyCare in Massachussetts.
However, I think he is an asset to the Party in the Northeast and Midwest states and obviously to Mass. since he knows how to win that state and has a core of supporters there. This makes him valuable to the GOP in general as the Brown win shows.
He collects a few chips here with his assist to Brown, no doubt.
You’re right. You are not a hypocrite. You are a purist who would rather see Obama succeed in making this a Socialist country than elect someone you do not regard as the perfect conservative. That is far worse than a hypocrite.
The enemy of my enemy is not my enemy. ;-)
I don’t think it is fair to ask too much from Senator Brown. Party loyalty he should provide, but he, and Republicans, must remember that he is from a pretty liberal state, and unless we want another Dem in that seat in 2012 (isn’t that when the term is over?) we need to understand that Brown should represent the people of Massachusetts, who are a pretty liberal lot, while doing all he can to support Republican policies as much as possible. I don’t know how conservative Brown really is, but he will likely have to temper it if he wants to stay in DC.
I would phrase it differently. I would say he isn't a Republican and that is what got him elected. He is an Independent running under the GOP flag, plain and simple.
Anyone running strictly on the fact that they are a Republican might as well save their time and money because the GOP is as disliked as the Liberals. They both have a big government and even bigger spending agenda.
For those wanting a third party, this is the way to do it. Bring your candidates into the GOP, become Independent and tell the party bosses to pleasure themselves!!!
Just so you wont be mistaken for a lie-ing sack of $hit,
why dont you show the post where I put him down.
This is all about politics. Its about human beings standing up for what is right. Its about Americans supporting the Constitution. Abortion is an abomination against humanity. Period. Just like slavery and the WWII Holocaust.
Btw, no one is perfect. But there is a big difference between the liberal policies that Brown supports and the policies of the conservative agenda.
A Man:
“Senator Scott Brown defending Sarah Palin … (11-04-08)”
A rat:
The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"
"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"
"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"
"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"
"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"
Poor sport spoiler Romney attacks other GOP candidates:
Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"
I don’t recall bringing up Brown’s stance on abortion, but no matter. I have no illusions about Brown or Reagan. They are both flawed, like any man and any politician is. This election is much less about Brown and much more about the American awakening to the threat of socialism than anything else. Unlike Reagan, I predict Brown will consistently disappoint conservatives long term, however, will be eviscerated here on FR for not acting like one and deservedly so.
1) Before last night, Brown was a Republican state legislator in Massachusetts.
2) Mitt Romney still controls the GOP apparatus in Massachusetts.
3) Brown necessarily had to rely on Romney's network to campaign and win in Massachusetts.
4) Brown now owes his fealty to Romney, even though he appears to be more Conservative than his mentor as well as Snowe and Collins (but not as Conservative as, say, Sarah Palin).
5) In the Senate, Brown will undoubtedly vote against Obama on every key issue.
6) Since this WAS Massachusetts in this single instance, and this election was crucial for the country, I'll take it.
7) I won't be surprised when Brown throws his support behind Romney in 2012 and won't hold it against him.
Perhaps to tweak that thought a bit more. An Independent is really nothing as far as political ideology goes. Hence, oft referred to as the "mushy middle."
I think Brown is a typical NE Republican, ala Snowe and Collins, and defines the mushy middle pretty well.
IMO, what the right needs to focus on for 2010 and 2012 - small government, fiscal conservatism. Even though some may hold the views very dearly, we need to leave wedge social issues off the table. Abortion and gay marriage specifically. RINO's are often found hiding behind these issues all the while spending our money like drunken sailors. In short, focus on fixing the fiscal issues of government and knock off the social issues where opportunity presents.
An enemy of my enemy is my friend.
There will be people here who will want to tar and feather him for not being a ‘true’ Conservative but I will try to keep the above proverb in mind.
And he sure beats the heck out of that moron Coakley!
Your problem is, those ideas are to big for you. You can't comprehend them. So therefore, you denounce them and ridicule them. Sounds like you're following Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, just like Obama.
At some point Republicans will want to win, and at that point they will need their base...all of their base...and a liberal pro-abortion, pro-romneycare guy will not hack it on the national stage.......that is if you want to win.
So until republicans really want to win, keep up with the loser crap that does not take into account who their party really is and provides candidates guaranteed to turn off the base on the national level.
Oh, and one last thought a guy that all the sudden finds he is pro-life after being pro-abortion most of his carrier will never hack either, those people will never trust him or vote for him.
Yes, it will happen. He is already being labeled by many with the most overused, nearly worthless acronym around: RINO.
“Even though some may hold the views very dearly, we need to leave wedge social issues off the table. Abortion and gay marriage specifically.”
The problem with your analysis is that the vast majority of Americans, have consistently voted against gay marriage...why would we ignore that issue? It’s a huge winner.
Abortion is an issue that is a tough one in Liberal Northeast states only. That is where the Brown’s etc work and should be utilized, but only because it helps us on a national basis.
For National elections, I will never vote for a supporter of abortion in any instance. It is not just a “wedge” issue, it is about good and evil and my pragmatic political sense takes a back seat to the battle for good and evil and honoring God.
My point is that folks who are unable to see the oceans of difference in ethics and political philosophy between Scott Brown and Marcia Coakley are not the folks with sufficient vision to guide this country to the restoration of a constitutional republic.
“My point is that folks who are unable to see the oceans of difference in ethics and political philosophy between Scott Brown and Marcia Coakley are not the folks with sufficient vision to guide this country to the restoration of a constitutional republic.”
I don’t see too many people on FR not loving Brown on this board. Right now he is my favorite Republican. If we conservatives believe in state and local control over national, then we have to accept lesser conservatives in the Liberal Northeast.
Different story at the national level though.
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