Phil Berg calls Lucas Smith to testify against Orly Taitz in Rivernider vs US Bank.

OBAMA”S -—>OGINGA ODINGA <-—HUMDINGER

Pictures tell a thousand words!!!!...

It’s a Humdinger that your leftist MSM intentionally ignored.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obamas-oginga-o.html

“This popular internet video at 6:26 in cites Obama’s connection and support for Odinga. An edited version of this internet video exists here and an Obama/Odinga on the campaign trail is here. All 3 video embeds are at Eyeblast.tv...” HAS LONG BEEN DEBUNKED!

“Also, questions are being raised if Obama may have violated the Logan Act.”... HAS LONG BEEN DEBUNKED!

(re: Obama’s political contribution to Kenya) http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/may/02/chain-email/not-a-cent-from-unrelated-obama/

“Odinga’s thugs were involved in the slaughter of thousands of Kenyans...”

By mid-February 2008, more than 1,500 Kenyans were killed. Many were slain by machete-armed attackers. More than 500,000 were displaced by the religious strife. Villages lay in ruin. Many of the atrocities were perpetrated by Muslims against Christians...
>The violence was led by supporters of Raila Odinga, the opposition leader who lost the Dec. 27, 2007, presidential election by more than 230,000 votes. Odinga supporters began the genocide hours after the final election results were announced Dec. 30. Mr. Odinga was a member of Parliament representing an area in western Kenya, heavily populated by the Luo tribe, and the birthplace of Barack Obama’s father...”

Can you honestly place Obama’s participation in the above atrocities?...Your claim of Obama’s political contribution has long been DEBUNKED!

“Initially, Mr. Odinga was not the favored opposition candidate to stand in the 2007 election against President Mwai Kibaki, who was seeking his second term. However, he received a tremendous boost when Sen. Barack Obama arrived in Kenya in August 2006 to campaign on his behalf. Mr. Obama denies that supporting Mr. Odinga was the intention of his trip, but his actions and local media reports tell otherwise...”...

WRONG! PURELY SPECULATIVE...The question is...WHY DID OBAMA GO TO KENYA?

“Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama’s six-day stay. The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies. In contrast, Mr. Obama had only criticism for Kibaki. He lashed out against the Kenyan government shortly after meeting with the president on Aug. 25. “The [Kenyan] people have to suffer over corruption perpetrated by government officials,” Mr. Obama announced...”

What we can confirm is that Obama has remained neutral in Kenyan politics, and did not support Odinga during his trip. Odinga attended some of Obama’s events while Obama was in Kenya, and clearly wanted to associate himself with Obama, but there is no evidence to indicate that Obama “openly supported” Odinga. (We previously reported on a letter from missionaries that alleged Obama contributed to Odinga’s campaign; we rated it Pants on Fire! wrong.)
For this statement, we decided to scour the public record for evidence that Obama supported Odinga. We looked to contemporary accounts of the 2006 trip and found a transcript from an interview Obama gave to a Kenyan newspaper that directly contradicts Corsi’s allegation.
Question: “As you prepared to travel to Kenya you were obviously conscious of two things. One was about being drawn into local politics. The other was the high expectations of what you could do for Kenya now that you are a senator. How did you handle both?”
Obama: “One of the things we try to do is meet with all parties. I met President Kibaki, I met Uhuru Kenyatta, I was with Raila Odinga. We met the government, met the opposition and met other groups such as human rights activists. What I try to do is give a consistent message on what I think U.S.-Kenya relations should be, but not to suggest somehow that I think one party is better than the other. That’s for the Kenyan people to decide.”

Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama had met several times before the 2006 trip. Reports indicate Mr. Odinga visited Mr. Obama during trips to the U.S. in 2004, 2005 and 2006. Mr. Obama sent his foreign policy adviser Mark Lippert to Kenya in early 2006 to coordinate his summer visit. Mr. Obama’s August trip coincided with strategizing by Orange Democratic Movement leaders to defeat Mr. Kibaki in the upcoming elections. Mr. Odinga represented the ODM ticket in the presidential race...”

THE QUESTION IS...Why did Obama went to Kenya?

LIES ARE CHEAP AND THE TRUTH HURTS!

“Pictures tell a thousand words!!!!...”

Yes indeed, pictures tell a thousand word...no one can lie about what the picture shows. Now can you show me all those pictures of Obama with other politicians in Kenya? What about his pictures meeting the Christian Archbishop? Now can you locate Obama amongst the rioting people in the picture?

LIES ARE CHEAP AND THE TRUTH HURTS!

“It’s a Humdinger that your leftist MSM intentionally ignored.”?...

Or shall I say a purportedly humdinger that was not to be! Sorry!, stick to the facts not those made up stories from the crackpots of the fringes!

LIES ARE CHEAP AND THE TRUTH HURTS!

The truth that you refuse to acknowledge. Your words do not change his actions in Kenya:

>Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama’s six-day stay.

>The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies.

>In contrast, Mr. Obama had only criticism for Kibaki.

>He lashed out against the Kenyan government shortly after meeting with the president on Aug. 25.

> “The [Kenyan] people have to suffer over corruption perpetrated by government officials,” Mr. Obama announced..........................

“The truth that you refuse to acknowledge. Your words do not change his actions in Kenya:”

Your assumption of Truth were actually Lies perpetuated by no other than Jerome Corsi the liar! Your words does not change the fact that you believe in lies!

“Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama’s six-day stay.”

Where you in Kenya to attest to your statement of did you lift this from a right wing blog?

“The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies.”

Where you in Kenya to attest to your statement of did you lift this from a right wing blog?

“In contrast, Mr. Obama had only criticism for Kibaki.”

Obama was in Kenya on a fact finding mission by the US Government called “COBEL OBAMA”. Therefore, Obama and company were to look into the then current government!

“He lashed out against the Kenyan government shortly after meeting with the president on Aug. 25.”

Obama was in Kenya on a fact finding mission by the US Government called “COBEL OBAMA”. Therefore, Obama and company were to look into the then current government!

“The [Kenyan] people have to suffer over corruption perpetrated by government officials,” Mr. Obama announced...”

The Kenyan people were already suffering before Obama set foot in Kenya. Thus the COBEL OBAMA FACT FINDING MISSION BY OBAMA ET.AL.

LIES ARE CHEAP AND THE TRUTH HURTS!

Your attempts to rewrite history are completely laughable to readers of FREE REPUBLIC. The videofootage and local news coverage of Senator Obama campaigning for Odinga are not debatable. There are several videos of him at these different venues.

Here is an excerpt from the Washington Times......

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/print/

....Initially, Mr. ODINGA was not the favored opposition candidate to stand in the 2007 election against President Mwai Kibaki, who was seeking his second term. However, he-— received a tremendous boost when Sen. Barack Obama arrived in Kenya in August 2006 to campaign on his behalf.—— Mr. OBAMA denies that supporting Mr. Odinga was the intention of his trip, but his actions and local media reports tell otherwise.

Mr. ODINGA and Mr. OBAMA were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama’s six-day stay. The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies. In contrast, Mr. Obama had only criticism for Kibaki. He lashed out against the Kenyan government shortly after meeting with the president on Aug. 25. “The [Kenyan] people have to suffer over corruption perpetrated by government officials,” Mr. Obama announced.

“Kenyans are now yearning for change,” he declared. The intent of Mr. Obama’s remarks and actions was transparent to Kenyans - he was firmly behind Mr. Odinga.

Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama had met several times before the 2006 trip. Reports indicate Mr. Odinga visited Mr. Obama during trips to the U.S. in 2004, 2005 and 2006. Mr. Obama sent his foreign policy adviser Mark Lippert to Kenya in early 2006 to coordinate his summer visit. Mr. Obama’s August trip coincided with strategizing by Orange Democratic Movement leaders to defeat Mr. Kibaki in the upcoming elections. Mr. Odinga represented the ODM ticket in the presidential race.

Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama’s father were both from the Luo community, the second-largest tribe in Kenya, but their ties run much deeper. Mr. Odinga told a stunned BBC Radio interviewer the reason why he and Mr. Obama were staying in near daily telephone contact was because they were cousins. In a Jan. 8, 2008, interview, Mr. Odinga said Mr. Obama had called him twice the day before while campaigning in the New Hampshire primary before adding, “Barack Obama’s father is my maternal uncle.”

President Kibaki requested a meeting of all opposition leaders in early January in an effort to quell the violence-——. All agreed to attend except Mr. Odinga.-—— A month later, Mr. Kibaki offered Mr. Odinga the role of prime minister, the de facto No. 2 in the Kenyan government, in return for an end to the attacks. Mr. Odinga was sworn in on April 17, 2008.

Mr. OBAMA’S judgment is seriously called into question when he backs an official with troubling ties to Muslim extremists and whose supporters practice ethnic cleansing and genocide. It was Islamic extremists in Kenya who bombed the U.S. Embassy in 1998, killing more than 200 and injuring thousands. None of this has dissuaded Mr. Obama from maintaining disturbing loyalties.

STOP the lies Spectra,

Kenyan government officials said:

“Obama is a stooge for an opposing political party.”

Just as he had all during that one week stay in Kenya, while at the University of Nairobi, Obama continued to offer up continuous pointed criticism of Kibaki’s administration.

This is a quote from President Mwai Kibaki, (not a right-wing American blog).

Obama may have, “fallen under the spell of opposition leader Raila Odinga.”

And from his administration,

“Odinga’s been at Obama’s elbow here fairly often and is a member of the Obama family’s Luo tribe.”

“Sen. Obama has to look at critically about where he’s receiving his advice from,” said government spokesman Dr. Alfred Mutua.

“Just because somebody, somewhere wants to run for president and is using Sen. Obama as his stooge, as his puppet to be able to get to where he wants to get to.”

“STOP the lies Spectra”....Now you STOP the speculations Gemsbroke!
You can post all those information as to what those Kenyan goverment officials have said about the effect of Obama’s visit. The fact of the matter is this.

1. Kenya has always had a VIOLENT political climate even before Obama’s visit.
2. Obama visited Kenya on a fact finding mission as directed by the senate.(COBEL OBAMA)
3. There is no where to be found or prove that Obama openly supported Odinga, on the contrary Obama addressed that issue during his speech in that Kenyan University.
4. It’s a fact that Odinga took advantage of Obama’s visit to be always present wherever Obama made public appearances to boost his candidacy. That same tactic was made by Imelda Marcos to Pope John Paul II when he visited the Philippines to show legitimacy to the despotic Marcos regime but those filipinos did not buy into the trick! The Kenyan people did not buy Odinga’s trick he lost the election despite his photo ops with Obama!
5. It’s a fact the Obama gave all Kenyan officials the time to be with him.

So, why do you insist that Obama somehow has a connection to what is happening in Kenya? Odinga himself lately said that “Obama is not Kenyan, he is American”

So, why do you insist that those violent pictures some how proves that Obama is guilty of some conspiracy or what have you?

Is it just that you want to legitimize your dislike of Obama because he is BLACK?

I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING FARTHER TO TALK TO YOU!

Rectumsepra,
You have just proven yourself to have signed up on FRee Republic for the sole purpose of misrepresenting the truth and distorting factual accounts to support your Leftist agenda.

You are unable to refute the audible words of Obama, the President of Kenya, or his official representatives. I have provided you with numerous links and videos of your master politico in action——
Spectra, You Lose

You are unable to spin, twist, or defame the Kenyan government’s words as “”right-winger-wacist”” -—Spectra, You Lose

And when you fail to prove your point, you just scream real loud.....

That’s, Racist, that’s wacist, that’s wacist, that’s wacist.

And, as a classic weak-minded Obama Knee-padder, You ask me this?

From RectumSepra: “Is it just that you want to legitimize your dislike of Obama because he is BLACK?”

Never discussed how much I like or dislike him, or his skin-tone. What color am I supposed to be? Just linked you to what the man has said and done -On The Record, in Kenya.

and, by the way, you Wacist-FOOL,

You need to return to where ever you learned to speak the English language and get a refund after composing this sentence...

I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING -FARTHER- TO TALK TO YOU!

Very nice Obama Odinga discussion.

I just wish to remember that,
Odinga is the prime minister of Kenya
Odinga is Christian and does not support Sharia
Odinga is not Osama Bin Laden

So I believe that, whatever the connections are between Obama and Odinga, they are basically meaningless in the pursuit of evidence to Obama’s ineligibility. As usual many discuss the stregth of the ties between the two men but few question the assumptions (Odinga, Sharia etc). I will stay neutral on this argument besides reminding again that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raila_Odinga
Odinga is Christian, born Anglican and now Born Again Christian.

In his biography (which I suggest you all read) there is absolutely nothing Muslim about Odinga. Obama is by far more muslim than Odinga. So how did this Sharia bullshit come up ?

Also brush up your info about his “socialism” (same source)

“According his website, Raila lists himself as a social democrat,thus distancing himself from his late father, who was openly socialist. His party, the LDP, is affiliated to the Liberal International.”

Liberal International is a federation of Liberal and progressive parties. It’s orientation is social democratic.

What continues to amaze me is how we tend to rely allways more upon comments and allways less upon infos. Same is happening with Lucas Smith, the myth is prevailing over the facts.

And the same is happening with Obama the Socialist, Nazi Communist. Personally I believe Onama stands indeed on the left side of the American Political spectrum but, and this is my very personal opinion, well within it.
The current political debate should not be about Capitalism vs Socialism, Communism or Nazism. The correct debate should be about State Capialism vs Private Capitalism. The issue is being debated worldwide and it is the consequence of the financial crisis. The financial crisis has seriously damaged the reputation of Private Capitalism. State Capitalism, which I do not defend or approve, is just the logical consequence of the failure of Private Capitalism (mainly in its’financial institutions and instruments).
So I respect those who oppose Obama because they fear State Capitalism (China) I don’t respect the legions who decry the cummunist, nazi, socialist, born in Kenya usurper.

back to Lucas

The myth:

Lucas the honest patriot landed in Congo and trekked the jungle across three nations into Kenya,in Nairobi he rented a car and drove to Mombasa (btw why didn’t he trek directly to Mombasa ? - he would have shorthend his 1000 miles trek by a few hudred). Once there he bribed a policeman and on the 19th of Feb took hold of the Kenyan Birth Certificate of Barack Hussein Obama. Triumphant he returned to the US and became a star. He imagines himself as future President.

The fact:

Lucas the professional forger never was in Kenya. The pics to illustrate African settings were shot in Santo Domingo, as were the videos. Lucas forged the document basing himself on Internet information. He mispelled the name of the signing Chief Administrator because a Kenyan paper (his source) mispelled it. He also dated his forgery back to the time when the mispelled doctor was not yet Chief Administrator.

“You have just proven yourself to have signed up on FRee Republic for the sole purpose of misrepresenting the truth and distorting factual accounts to support your Leftist agenda.”...

Which truth are you talking about those that you pull straight out of your rectum?

“You are unable to refute the audible words of Obama, the President of Kenya, or his official representatives. I have provided you with numerous links and videos of your master politico in action——
Spectra, You Lose”

Didn’t I just tell you that you kept trying to prove that Obama is somewhat responsible for what is happening in Kenya yet there is no proof that Obama actually supported this violence and the prime minister?

“You are unable to spin, twist, or defame the Kenyan government’s words as “”right-winger-wacist”” -—Spectra, You Lose”

There is nothing to negate about what those people claim. However, whatever they claim has nothing to do with Obama’s sentiment toward Kenya!

“And when you fail to prove your point, you just scream real loud.....
That’s, Racist, that’s wacist, that’s wacist, that’s wacist.
And, as a classic weak-minded Obama Knee-padder, You ask me this?”

Ooops!...Another insult is coming, brace yourself!

“You need to return to where ever you learned to speak the English language and get a refund after composing this sentence...

I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING -FARTHER- TO TALK TO YOU!”

Wow! as predicted!!! Insult was on its way!

Now tell me! Has it ever been a rule in this forum for a poster to be eloquent and well versed? Because, you see...I’m only a poor destitute uneducated conservative who seek to be informed not with lies but with truth from posters who are well educated and excellent speakers. I wish to engage those who belong to the higher strata of our society like you!

Apparently you fell for the trap! Once I mentioned Imelda Marcos and Pope John Paul II, you immediately thought that I must not be from America, therefore, I can’t speak nor convey a message in English. Thus, your recommendation for me to go back to school to learn English! Forget about going back to school, remember I just told you that I’m an uneducated destitute conservative. My mention of John Paul II must have been a clue for you that I’m a conservative but you seem to have missed that! Now, I don’t have anything else to say to you! Your point of view is way off to the fringes. You’re an anathema to conservatism!

"This auction is for a ticket that costs $15.00 US Dollars. ............. Dissertation on Foreign Birth of US President Barack Hussein Obama II at Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa. The Dissertation will be published by Lucas Smith, independently, by dint of Constitution Publications which was establsihed in 2005 by Lucas Smith. Book consists of 1000 pages. Each segment (not every page) of the dissertation will be signed by Lucas Smith and a Notary Public. Book contains color pictures of Lucas Smith in the following countries: United States, Dominican Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Republic of the Congo, France, Uganda and Kenya. ................................ Dissertation contains scores of marshaled documents, maps, African passport stamps in Smith’s passport and other instruments which establish, under both standards of evidence, preponderance of the evidence and beyond a reasonable doubt, that US President Barack Obama was born at Coast Province General Hospital, Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya. Dissertation discusses and lays out specific reasoning behind Lucas Smith’s travel to Africa in 2009. Smith did not travel to Africa with beforehand knowledge of Barack Obama’s Kenyan Birth. Smith is a writer and traveled to Africa for a story in the Congo. Dissertation discusses in intricate detail birth documents and other identity instruments and their history. Dissertation details and documents Smith’s journey beginning in January 2009 which included travel to and through Africa and Kenya and Coast Province General Hospital (CPGH). ................ Book will be published and be available to the public on or before July 4th, 2010. .................. Lets try and get at least 1000 people from each of the 50 States. ................. Smith holds degrees in Sociology, Social Sciences and Afro Caribbean Studies." waiting

double posting. Sorry. here is another interesting question about Lucas' claims and declarations. Did Lucas search the lost dinosaur in the wrong Congo ? Lucas affirms he was in The Democratic Republic of Congo searching for an elusive dinosaur.

Mokele Mbembe He wants us to know he went to the Democratic Republic of Congo, he reminds us it's former Zaire and former Belgian Congo. Well what is wrong with that ? Apparently it's the wrong Congo to search for the dinosaur This cryptozoology site http://www.mokelembembe.com/ says the dinosaur lives in the Likouala swamp region of The People's Republic of the Congo. Check a map and you will easily find the region: it's the northernmost province of the People's Republic Of Congo. The other Congo. The wrong Congo. So the man, beyond being a crook and a poor forger, is also a sloppy scientist. wrong spelling for signing doctor, wrong name for Chief Administrator, wrong Congo to search for dinosaur

Dear Mik Taerg aka Greatkim2009,

So you’re back with more half rate research.

The dinosaur like creature “Mbembe” has been spotted in at least for different African countries. Reports have put the animal on both sides or the border of the two congos. There’s even a book written about an expidtion which was carried out in just the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Also I see that you have cited my eBay auctions. Did you somewho miss that fact that I state (even in your quote) that I was in BOTH of the Congos??? You know, they are right next to each other.

As usual your reports are child like. Get a life, please, please, get a life.

Thanks Lucas and welcome back,
(must I also add the AKAs ? Inspector Smith, Lucas Smith, Colmado Naranja)

you are right Mokele was spotted in a region that comprehends both Congos: the north of PR Congo and the NW of DR Congo. That place has put you a far strech from Kenya.
I believe you took NR 1 or the great river Congo. Then into Rwanda or Burundi or Tanzania or Uganda. And finally Kenya. But anyway, you will not tell us. Plane ?
But maybe you could anticipate some passport stamps (you have now had sufficient time to forge them).

Btw how did the dinosaur search end ? Did you find it ? Are you going to auction Mbembe on E-bay ? Will you write a book about it after the inevitable dissertation ? Will we see pics from Santo Domingo to describe dinosaur habitat ?

I remember you claiming to have been in both Congos. But in the occasion of the fake trip for the fake birth paper (affidavit and E-bay auction) I think you mentioned DR Congo (as you have said former Zaire and Belgian Congo) only. Can you please check this as well ? Thanks. Bacause, you know, I am interested in your Birth Certificate trip not at your other foreign visits.

The thread is now about political and biological dinosaurs, Odinga and Mokele. But my questions are still the same:

Since he had not yet been appointed CA on Feb 19th why are Maganga’s CA stamp and signature on your paper ?

Since his name is Heltan why have you spelled him Helton ?

Hoping to read you more often here since, I am sure about this, you prefer hefty discussions to the echo chamber which has become your youtube page. I suggest you change that green background (or at least use a paler shade): it’s eye-soring and childish.

I found a picture of Kenya Customs stamps or entry stamp

you may want to check it out through google. You can photoshop it on a US passport page...then presto! You have a proof of entry to kenya!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.virtualtourist.com/1637723-Kenya_Entrance_Stamp-Mombasa.jpg&imgrefurl=http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/72173/1f4ddc/&usg=__lnQe3kOa3WwJDXVQUD_7IzyKwyM=&h=500&w=374&sz=63&hl=en&start=11&itbs=1&tbnid=wb38D1UEJkZP8M:&tbnh=130&tbnw=97&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkenyan%2Bcustoms%2Bstamp%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Bon a Petit!

Hi Lucysmom,

the name calling is certainly referred to “Obot”.
Politely I would just remind that the way maganga spells his name is important because I am quite certain that Lucas mispelled it and so this would amount to evidence of forgery.
But after it came up that Othigo was the Administrator on Feb 19th 2009, the date stamped on the fake bc, the issue about Maganga’s name has become of secondary importance. But nevertheless it is still there.

Dear Greatkim2009 aka Mik Taerg,

Thank you for admitting that another segment of your great research is garbage. What do you do all day, just google search and then make posts about the “evidence” that you just found on google 5 minutes ago?

And yes, I see that you still have the same two questions (minus the scores of other questions that you no longer ask me or anyone else).

How many times have I answered your questions now about the Helton / Heltan spelling??? How many times have I answered now your questions about Othigo CA / Helton CA???

Why do you wait a few week and pop up with questions that I have already answered? Do you feel that new readers will take your side since because I don’t always answer your repeat questions?

How about you start answering questions Great Kim / Mik Tearg? Why is that you have lied and forged your way through all of this from the outset or our talks??? Tell us more about your telephone conversation with Helton Maganga......you remember??? You were all over the youtube forum with your telephone calls to Helton Maganga in September and October 2009.

If Helton was not Chief Admin is February 2009 than why didn’t he tell you that when you spoke with him telephonically?

Let me guess, you lied about really calling him??? But that’s no big deal right?

Here’s an idea, Why don’t you try to conduct some actual research? You know, why don’t you get a copy of Hetlon Maganga’s signature of some paperwork that he has printed or signed his name to?

Do the same to support your claims about Othigo as Chief Admin in February 2009.

Stop citing same online newspapers from Kenyan. The newspapers go both away when spelling Helton’s name. And we’ve already been over the fact that in Swahili (which is written with the English alphabet) names are spelled phonetically. There is not set standard for spellings. And if you total up the KENYAN online spellings for Manganga’s first name we all find that HELTON out ranks HELTAN by far. I can tell that you’ve never been to Africa (though you claims you spent time there for 30 years). Stop assuming that values and norms are the same as they are in America. Many Africans don’t even know how old they are, AND THEY DONT CARE EITHER. Do you get it yet? Most Africans are not so obsessive compulsive as British and Americans are. Before Brits started the identification system in Kenya (1920s I think) there was never any form of ID there. Africans don’t hold the same values as Americans and Europeans. Yet you spent 30 years in Africa??? What a joke.

Your only basis for Othigo theory is a few online newspapers from Kenyan which mention her name. Yet these newspaper contradict themselves when citing past Chief Admin and Deputy Chief Admin. The same newspapers that spell Helton both ways.

Go and find some real evidence. What are you waiting for???

To date Helton Maganga has remained silent.

To date Coast Province General Hospital has not came out and issued any statement about the birth certificate.

To date Othigo has remained silent.

To date the birth doctor James Ang’awa’s family has remained silent.

To date no one has provided evidence that the signature of James Ang’awa is not authentic.

All this yet little Great Kim has all the answers.

Come back when you have at least some sort of evidence to support you claims.

Also, I want to thank you for FINALLY taking down your forgeries of the CPGH 1961 OBAMA birth certificate which you Photoshoped from the birth certificate I found in Kenya.

Why did you mislead thousands or viewers with your forgeries??? You claim it was demonstrate who easily that docs could be forged ......yet you never said that along side your online posts of your forgeries.....all you ever said was that it was the original and that I (Lucas) has based the doc that I have off of your that you have posted.

Again, you have lied (many times) and committed forgery (twice that I know of) from the outset of your campaign.
WHY????