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To: Mik Taerg

Dear Greatkim2009 aka Mik Taerg,

Thank you for admitting that another segment of your great research is garbage. What do you do all day, just google search and then make posts about the “evidence” that you just found on google 5 minutes ago?

And yes, I see that you still have the same two questions (minus the scores of other questions that you no longer ask me or anyone else).

How many times have I answered your questions now about the Helton / Heltan spelling??? How many times have I answered now your questions about Othigo CA / Helton CA???

Why do you wait a few week and pop up with questions that I have already answered? Do you feel that new readers will take your side since because I don’t always answer your repeat questions?

How about you start answering questions Great Kim / Mik Tearg? Why is that you have lied and forged your way through all of this from the outset or our talks??? Tell us more about your telephone conversation with Helton Maganga......you remember??? You were all over the youtube forum with your telephone calls to Helton Maganga in September and October 2009.

If Helton was not Chief Admin is February 2009 than why didn’t he tell you that when you spoke with him telephonically?

Let me guess, you lied about really calling him??? But that’s no big deal right?

Here’s an idea, Why don’t you try to conduct some actual research? You know, why don’t you get a copy of Hetlon Maganga’s signature of some paperwork that he has printed or signed his name to?

Do the same to support your claims about Othigo as Chief Admin in February 2009.

Stop citing same online newspapers from Kenyan. The newspapers go both away when spelling Helton’s name. And we’ve already been over the fact that in Swahili (which is written with the English alphabet) names are spelled phonetically. There is not set standard for spellings. And if you total up the KENYAN online spellings for Manganga’s first name we all find that HELTON out ranks HELTAN by far. I can tell that you’ve never been to Africa (though you claims you spent time there for 30 years). Stop assuming that values and norms are the same as they are in America. Many Africans don’t even know how old they are, AND THEY DONT CARE EITHER. Do you get it yet? Most Africans are not so obsessive compulsive as British and Americans are. Before Brits started the identification system in Kenya (1920s I think) there was never any form of ID there. Africans don’t hold the same values as Americans and Europeans. Yet you spent 30 years in Africa??? What a joke.

Your only basis for Othigo theory is a few online newspapers from Kenyan which mention her name. Yet these newspaper contradict themselves when citing past Chief Admin and Deputy Chief Admin. The same newspapers that spell Helton both ways.

Go and find some real evidence. What are you waiting for???

To date Helton Maganga has remained silent.

To date Coast Province General Hospital has not came out and issued any statement about the birth certificate.

To date Othigo has remained silent.

To date the birth doctor James Ang’awa’s family has remained silent.

To date no one has provided evidence that the signature of James Ang’awa is not authentic.

All this yet little Great Kim has all the answers.

Come back when you have at least some sort of evidence to support you claims.

Also, I want to thank you for FINALLY taking down your forgeries of the CPGH 1961 OBAMA birth certificate which you Photoshoped from the birth certificate I found in Kenya.

Why did you mislead thousands or viewers with your forgeries??? You claim it was demonstrate who easily that docs could be forged ......yet you never said that along side your online posts of your forgeries.....all you ever said was that it was the original and that I (Lucas) has based the doc that I have off of your that you have posted.

Again, you have lied (many times) and committed forgery (twice that I know of) from the outset of your campaign.
WHY????


160 posted on 01/28/2010 11:35:01 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: InspectorSmith

dear Lucas, sometimes you get angry but that’s okay with me.
This time I will AGAIN ask the same 2 questions before replying:

Why are name and signature of the CA on your BC spelled Helton Maganga when:

a Maganga’s name is Heltan, and
b Maganga was not the Chief administrator on Feb 19th 2009.

?

Most online sources I have quoted as evidence are the major media of Kenya - The Nation and NTV the national television. So they are not just any blog. Also I mention the 2 online medical directories (they are there from before you even dreamed about recovering a Kenyan BC). Don’t you think that by now any doctor seeing his name mispelled for YEARS on a public directory would have asked to amend it’s spelling ?
Your statement about Africans not knowing their age can appear quite racist allthough I know you are not a racist. This statement can be applied to people who were born and still live in tribal communities certainly not to educated city dwellers. You are generalizing.
Contrary to your comment my last research is not garbage.
I was asking a question and you gave me an answer (thanks). However in your affidavit you never mentioned the other (PR)Congo. I am still very curious about how you reached Nairobi from those remote areas where Mbembe was sighted.

If you go to politijab and to another free republic thread you can trace the moment I first posted my forgery of your forgery. It is self evident. Thousand of people fooled ? What about the tens of thousands fooled by you ?

If you recall I have allways insisted YOU call Maganga because nobody would ever believe my words concerning a phone call. You won’t do it because making a call would in itself be an admission of forgery (how could you possibly show that you have doubts ?).

Listen Lucas I understand your strategy about making me appear as an unreliable liar and forger but the point is not about the messenger (me), it’s about the message (Heltan and Othigo). SO your anger should be directed at those who put the sources I have used online: the Medical Associations who’s directories name Heltan, the Journalists who dared to write articles about CPGH until April 2009 interviewing the Chief Administrator Jennifer Othigo. They are your target Lucas. You must confront yourself with them not me.

AMINA KIBIRIGE has named Othigo as Chief Administrator more than once. Here are two of these instances. The following is the April 2009 article you well now and about which you have implicitly accused me of having planted it (it really must have scared you !)
http://www.nation.co.ke/page/search/DailyNation/-/1148/1148/-/view/asSearch/-/r4tvx4z/-/index.html
The next one was commented by Seizethecarp. It’s form October 2008. It is just to illustrate that I HAVE NOT MADE UP the story about Othigo as Chief Administrator. I HAVE JUST REPORTED IT.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/473466/-/tkuho4/-/index.html
the other articles frome Feb and March 2009 you well know.
In another article from 2008 Amina interviews another doctor and describes him as the Deputy Chied Administrator. So she seems to be quite precise about details in here reportings.
So why don’t you also make contact with her ? She is on facebook and her email is available on the net.
Stay well


161 posted on 01/28/2010 3:00:24 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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