dear Lucas, sometimes you get angry but that’s okay with me.
This time I will AGAIN ask the same 2 questions before replying:
Why are name and signature of the CA on your BC spelled Helton Maganga when:
a Maganga’s name is Heltan, and
b Maganga was not the Chief administrator on Feb 19th 2009.
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Most online sources I have quoted as evidence are the major media of Kenya - The Nation and NTV the national television. So they are not just any blog. Also I mention the 2 online medical directories (they are there from before you even dreamed about recovering a Kenyan BC). Don’t you think that by now any doctor seeing his name mispelled for YEARS on a public directory would have asked to amend it’s spelling ?
Your statement about Africans not knowing their age can appear quite racist allthough I know you are not a racist. This statement can be applied to people who were born and still live in tribal communities certainly not to educated city dwellers. You are generalizing.
Contrary to your comment my last research is not garbage.
I was asking a question and you gave me an answer (thanks). However in your affidavit you never mentioned the other (PR)Congo. I am still very curious about how you reached Nairobi from those remote areas where Mbembe was sighted.
If you go to politijab and to another free republic thread you can trace the moment I first posted my forgery of your forgery. It is self evident. Thousand of people fooled ? What about the tens of thousands fooled by you ?
If you recall I have allways insisted YOU call Maganga because nobody would ever believe my words concerning a phone call. You won’t do it because making a call would in itself be an admission of forgery (how could you possibly show that you have doubts ?).
Listen Lucas I understand your strategy about making me appear as an unreliable liar and forger but the point is not about the messenger (me), it’s about the message (Heltan and Othigo). SO your anger should be directed at those who put the sources I have used online: the Medical Associations who’s directories name Heltan, the Journalists who dared to write articles about CPGH until April 2009 interviewing the Chief Administrator Jennifer Othigo. They are your target Lucas. You must confront yourself with them not me.
AMINA KIBIRIGE has named Othigo as Chief Administrator more than once. Here are two of these instances. The following is the April 2009 article you well now and about which you have implicitly accused me of having planted it (it really must have scared you !)
http://www.nation.co.ke/page/search/DailyNation/-/1148/1148/-/view/asSearch/-/r4tvx4z/-/index.html
The next one was commented by Seizethecarp. It’s form October 2008. It is just to illustrate that I HAVE NOT MADE UP the story about Othigo as Chief Administrator. I HAVE JUST REPORTED IT.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/473466/-/tkuho4/-/index.html
the other articles frome Feb and March 2009 you well know.
In another article from 2008 Amina interviews another doctor and describes him as the Deputy Chied Administrator. So she seems to be quite precise about details in here reportings.
So why don’t you also make contact with her ? She is on facebook and her email is available on the net.
Stay well
GreatKim2009 aka Mik Tearg,
Stop with the lies already. Now you claim that you never called Maganga. ha ha ha ha.
You were all over the youtube forum saying that YOU had spoken with Maganga on the telephone.
When others tried to call the hospital but were hung up on (because the person answering the phone coudln’t understand them) it you was YOU that told us that we should NOT cut to chase with the hospital over the telephone and that we shouldn’t let the hospital know that we are calling about Obama’s bc per se.
You were claiming on youtube that Maganga told you his middle name and his gender when you spoke with him on the telephone.
What happened Kim, you forgot your own lies now???
A few days after your call is when you started saying that I (Lucas) should call the hospital. I and many others have called the hospital number (listed on the bc, the number that you claimed was fake). The person that answer speaks terrible English and doesn’t understand me or others that call when we speak in our “proper” (hahaha) American English.
So stop with the lies already. Do I need to get everyone from the forum over here to call you out as a liar??? Originally you told everyone that YOU called Maganga.
Next, it’s not just people that are born in tribal areas that don’t know their birth dates in Africa. As I have told you the norms and cultures outside of Europe and America are very different. We American and Europeans think of time in a very different way. Everything is so obsessive compulsive with us Americans and Europeans, we take notes on everything we record exact times and dates. Much of the population throughout Africa doesn’t give a crap about specific dates. You might want to travel to Africa some day if you are going to continue with your lie about your 30 years in Africa.
Again, get some evidence to back your claims. Online newspapers and a couple Kenyan medical directories (which Helton Maganga didn’t write himself) are just examples of Swahili being spelled out in English with the writers own phonetic version. Kenyan news sources also have spelled his last name as “Muganga”. And when we start talking about Othigo, WOW, big problem, BIG PROBLEM, several different spellings and even complete different names for her four names long name.
Take a look at several different spellings of Barack Obama in Kenya and surrounding African nations. You think they really don’t know how to spell his name??? Is one source correct and the other is not??? Is one a forgery, or all of them forgeries???
You don’t have a clue about Africa.
And again, are we to believe that you know more that Maganga, Ang’awa’s family, Othigo, Odongo and Coast Province General Hospital???
They all remained silent. How difficult would it be for Ang’awa’s family to come forward with several documents that James Ang’awa signed?
How difficult would it be for Helton Maganga to come forward and say, “Hey guys, I wasn’t even chief Admin in February 2009, and by the way I spell my name HELTAN and heres several documents with my name on it.
You Kim have even made the claim that you work for a company that has two Chief Administrators and that you are one of them. Yet you are obsessed with Maganga/Othigo.
Things in Africa are unstable, nothing functions as it does in the developed world. Yet you continue to reason everything out with American norms and culture.
Go find some sort of real evidence. As you know I am an objective person. I will consider any evidence regardless of what direction the evidence leans towards.
Lastly I see that you have half-answered my question about your birth certificate forgeries. Yes, yes, yes I know you were on the forum (youtube) telling everyone that your forgeries were solely to demonstrate just how easy it was to make a forgery. BUT YOU DIDN’T TELL THAT TO YOUR VIEWERS ON photobucket.com (which is now “private”) or your viewers at scribd.com (which you removed a several days ago). Those were the thousands of viewes that you mislead.
The other part of your half-answer was to state that I (Lucas) have mislead many more than you have so why should it matter that you created forgeries and mislead only a cuople thousdand people.
What sort of logic is that? You sound like a little kid now.
Thanks for writing. If you can find any real evidence I will reply again.
Respectfully,
Lucas Smith.