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Desktop Computer Kicks Supercomputer Out of Top Place on Pi Record List
Daily Tech ^ | - January 5, 2010 1:47 PM | Jason Mick (Blog)

Posted on 01/07/2010 9:34:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

These days even a desktop computer is capable of some extreme number crunching

Getting a lot out of a little is one of the most fascinating forms of enthusiasm in the tech community.  Whether it's squeezing Windows 7 onto a Pentium II dinosaur, or making a homebrew SNES handheld, such endeavors are truly intriguing.

Perhaps the latest and greatest wonder of hardware overachievement is the story of French native Fabrice Bellard, who now holds the world record in PI calculation.  He calculated Pi to 2.7 trillion decimal digits, surpassing mark of 2.5 trillion digits set in August by the T2K Open Supercomputer (which at the time was the 47th most powerful supercomputer in the world).


So what's so impressive about Mr. Bellard's feat, aside from its basic technical merits?  He accomplished the number crunching, not on a supercomputer, but on a Nehalem-powered desktop.

His machine featured a Core i7 CPU running at 2.93 GHz, 6 GB of RAM, and five 1.5 Terabyte Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 model hard drives (for a total of 7.5 TB).  The system ran the 64-bit Red Hat Fedora 10 distribution as its primary OS and used software RAID-0 and the ext4 file system.


The result takes up 1137 GB of storage and is (partially) available here.  The computation took 103 days of computing time for the modest desktop

The only time when Mr. Bellard had to enlist the help of other computers was during the verification. 

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytech.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Science
KEYWORDS: hitech; mathcomputation; pii
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To: newfreep
Just discovered, the supercomputer required 29 hrs vs. the PC's 103 DAYS. So this is really apple & oranges comparison.

Time on a supercomputer is generally too expensive to have it be spent on non-revenue-generating projects. But a PC can be set up in a corner and forgotten about until it reports that it has an answer.

21 posted on 01/07/2010 11:50:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Whether it's squeezing Windows 7 onto a Pentium II dinosaur....

Now, THAT'S entertainment!

22 posted on 01/07/2010 12:06:14 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Kill them until they stop.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My best calculator only has 10 digits so I guess I’ll stick with 3.1416.


23 posted on 01/07/2010 12:07:15 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: newfreep

It looks like he was using the Tokyo cluster, That’s 952 nodes of quad-core 2.3 GHz Opterons. It took him 107 times as long, but the supercomputer had far more than 107 times the processing power.

His algorithm is apparently much more efficient.


24 posted on 01/07/2010 12:24:46 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I prefer to leave it as a symbol. It's much more accurate that way.


25 posted on 01/07/2010 12:47:28 PM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Approximately.

26 posted on 01/07/2010 12:56:33 PM PST by Lazamataz (America has been dead for a while; It's interesting to watch the cadaver cool.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I keep saying one of these days I should considering upgrading to a new PC. I can’t even get to the Pentagon Channel at this point due to them now requireing an upgrade to flash player 10, which is not supported on old window ME system.


27 posted on 01/07/2010 12:57:47 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle

AMD has a good quad chip for $99.


28 posted on 01/07/2010 1:22:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Flashplayer 10 is available for Linux...bet that old box would run Linux just fine.

Get one of these...:

KINGWIN KF-1000-BK 3.5" Internal hot swap rack - Retail $17.99

And a small SATA harddrive.

29 posted on 01/07/2010 1:33:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The current CPU chips would not even fit onto my old mother board. And useless to install on a 10 year old machine.
One of these days I will make the time to get a new system and go through the process of resetting up ISP services, email accounts, links to banking etc.. It is a matter of me making the time required to do these things with no headaches.


30 posted on 01/07/2010 2:04:38 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the help E, but like I said, a new system is the way to go. I have spent to many years doing partial hardware upgrades and addons etc.. I am not ready to go that route. Besides as soon as I do something along that line, something on the mother board or power supply would go caput. As for Linux. I have two vintage Linux machines. Have not powered either up in years. Besides I have to much stuff on hard disks I would like to keep for the time being. And I no longer play on systems. I don't have the time or desire. If I where retired and had a lot of time on my hands then perhaps it would be a different story.
One of these days I will just go to my local Best Buy Store and pick up a basic system and set it up.
31 posted on 01/07/2010 2:12:57 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Time is a precious commodity while working...

I currently have plenty of time,...

And so I am having a blast trying stuff....

32 posted on 01/07/2010 2:39:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Enjoy yourself in this regards Ernest. Perhaps I shall find myself in a similar scenario in the near future. I keep holding off because of unsure as how much health insurance would suit my needs.


33 posted on 01/07/2010 3:59:25 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; texas booster; decimon; Swordmaker; JoeProBono

Three hundred fifty five over one hundred thirteen ping. :’) Thanks Ernest.


34 posted on 01/07/2010 4:00:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Ernest_at_the_Beach

35 posted on 01/07/2010 4:17:17 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

LOL....who needs a computer to figure this Pi thing out...


36 posted on 01/07/2010 5:29:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Or, if you have 3 bays free, try a 5-into-3 rack: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133030&cm_re=hot_swap_rack-_-16-133-030-_-Product


37 posted on 01/08/2010 6:39:54 AM PST by bt_dooftlook (ACORN = Another Communist-Overrun Rats-Nest)
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To: newfreep
Please consider the "price/performance" metric as well :-)

Cheers!

38 posted on 01/09/2010 7:15:43 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://home.tia)
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To: JoeProBono

Where on *Earth* did you find that?!!


39 posted on 01/09/2010 7:18:15 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://home.tia)
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