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University Releases Affidavits
ESPN.com ^ | January 2, 2010 | Joe Schad

Posted on 01/02/2010 8:16:10 PM PST by the808bass

Texas Tech has released a signed, sworn affidavit from an athletic trainer who says former coach Mike Leach instructed him to "lock" receiver Adam James in a dark place and that he disagreed with Leach's treatment of James after the player was diagnosed with a concussion.

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KEYWORDS: collagefootball; mikeleach; texastech
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To: realmagnolia
I was surprised that they were as candid as they were. Davies made a very pointed comment towards the end of the game that said "at some point, you have to be able to conform" referencing both Leach and the players that MSU kicked off the team.

I have noted that no Leach supporters have dealt with the substance of the information contained in the affidavits which directly refutes the obfuscating blather that has come from them for days.

21 posted on 01/02/2010 10:15:36 PM PST by the808bass
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To: lonestar

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2418935/posts

I wonder what it took to get the doc and trainer to sighn this.


22 posted on 01/02/2010 10:17:35 PM PST by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: lonestar
No punishment for Craig James, giving or taking bribes
should be punished harshly.
23 posted on 01/02/2010 10:18:49 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: realmagnolia
It is strange that the comments in the affidavits differ from the earlier statements. I wonder if someone else is trying to keep their job?

I'm not sure that there's much difference in the actual facts conveyed in these affidavits. The interpretation is obviously quite different than the spin put on the earlier statements.

Of course, when a statement backs Leach, it is God-breathed truth. When it calls his actions into question, it is lies and the protestations of someone desperate to keep their own job.

24 posted on 01/02/2010 10:18:54 PM PST by the808bass
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To: realmagnolia

Solitary confinement doesn’t seem like the standard way of dealing with a concussion victim to me, though I’m no doctor. (There seems to be some dispute about whether there were trainers or anyone else in the closet/shed/barn/cell/prayer chapel with James.) But more than that, if you’re Leach, you’ve got to cover your own butt better than this, especially if you already think James is a devious little sleazebag and his dad is an interfering, arrogant jackass.


25 posted on 01/02/2010 10:20:11 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

“Craig James took bribes while playing for SMU leading to the SMU death penalty.”

I don’t imagine the people who gave those bribes to James had anything to do with SMU’s death penalty.

BTW-who was it at SMU that gave him the bribe?


26 posted on 01/02/2010 10:23:25 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
When programs are put on probation it's always after the cheaters have graduated and aren't affected. The innocent are punished. I think the offenders should be punished...the players, coaches, alumni, whoever...the guilty parties and not the innocent.

I think Craig James has always been a smarta$$.

27 posted on 01/02/2010 10:25:02 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
No punishment for Craig James, giving or taking bribes should be punished harshly.

Perhaps you could point us to the evidence of these bribes. That might be the beginning of the punishment for James.

28 posted on 01/02/2010 10:32:48 PM PST by the808bass
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To: Dan Middleton
Solitary confinement doesn’t seem like the standard way of dealing with a concussion victim to me, though I’m no doctor.

Me neither. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think avoiding bright lights IS an accepted treatment for concussions, and maybe that's all the coach was doing. The kid may have had to be locked up because sometimes players with concussions do strange impulsive things.

29 posted on 01/02/2010 10:47:09 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: the808bass

Substance like that Leach was fired a day or two before he was due a large chunk of money on his contract, or that he was fired after a one day “investigation” that I am sure was extremely thorough? It is pretty obvious to me why he was fired and I do not think it is because of how he treated James. BTW, both places James was kept in for an hour or two are nicer (bigger, better amenities) than many of the places military guys and gals his age live in for a year at a time. The military folks get concussions and are usually kept in their living quarters which are much smaller with fewer amenities all of the time and they do not have medical pros checking on them every 15 minutes. The spaces James was in are nicer than many of the places I have lived in as a military contractor. I guess I just do not get it, staying for an hour or two in a nice, large, well ventilated space with water available while being monitored by medical personnel just does not seem overly cruel to me. Was the kid physically hurt in some way that is not being reported or was it only his feelings that were hurt? Does the offense of hurting a player’s feelings rise to the level of firing Coach Leach during bowl week? I don’t think it does. Perhaps it is simply because I am not as sissified as some folks are but I fail to see anything to feel sorry for James about in this whole mess, he just comes off as such a spoiled jerk now.


30 posted on 01/02/2010 10:55:58 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20
The main reason (from what I can tell) that the investigation didn't take very long is that not very many facts were in dispute. Hance said that Leach didn't deny having James locked up, that he had cussed him out, and that he refused to apologize or acquiesce to the university's demands for further clarification in Leach's protocols for future treatment of injured athletes.

Tech will lose a lot more than $800k from this deal. From the initial reports of his contract, he might well be owed that amount even though he was fired before the bonus was technically due. They didn't fire him over $800k. They fired him because he appears to be absolutely unable to admit fault in almost anything, which led him to gross insubordination and an inability to apologize.

Your rambling about the conditions of a life in the military are irrelevant. And I have never requested that anyone feel sorry for Adam James.

31 posted on 01/03/2010 5:24:12 AM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass

Whatever


32 posted on 01/03/2010 7:00:55 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Auntie Dem

“Solitary confinement doesn’t seem like the standard way of dealing with a concussion victim to me, though I’m no doctor.”
“Me neither. I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I think avoiding bright lights IS an accepted treatment for concussions, and maybe that’s all the coach was doing. The kid may have had to be locked up because sometimes players with concussions do strange impulsive things.”

Are you aware that “locking someone in a room” is confining a person and has severe punishment under Texas law? Thats probably why the lawyer Leach has been denying doing this although he has since been contradicted by the trainer.
BTW, “hazing” is also a criminal offense. Leach is frantically trying to cover all his bases.


33 posted on 01/03/2010 7:09:34 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: jospehm20

I agree with 808Bass. I lived in quonset huts with a squad of Marines for extended periods of time (and “pup tents” in the field). But that has nothing to do with this situation.
Leach refused to obey his superiors. That’s why he was fired ultimately. And rightly so. Gross insubordination.
If I had done this in the Corps, I would have been in the Brig. Fast.


34 posted on 01/03/2010 7:26:55 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

I understood that he was being fired over the alleged mistreatment of a player, which I think is a matter of perspective. I was just bringing up the basis of my perspective. I still don’t think the player was mistreated. I also think that unless you know exactly what the documents he was asked to sign stated than it is premature to fault him for refusing to sign them. Coach Leach does have a JD degree and understands better than most people what documents actually say. In the end, it really doesn’t matter what I or anybody else thinks about the fairness of his firing. Coach Leach is gone, he is not coming back and hopefully the actions of Hance and company will not end up costing myself and the other taxpayers of Texas millions of dollars in legal settlements.


35 posted on 01/03/2010 8:32:49 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: the808bass

This mess is going to cost this university a great deal of money and prestige before the the last lawyer talks.


36 posted on 01/03/2010 8:36:01 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: jospehm20
It looks to me like the father was putting pressure on the coach to put his son on the starter list to get face time on the camera's. At some point the coach had enough and the kid felt he was being unfair. This caused the kid to layup during practice to show his displeasure and the coach did the same by not allowing the kid to stay within the coach's sight. (a common punishment meant to make the kid angry, ashamed and promote drive and determination)

The father then rants on ESPN and claims medical mistreatment, a red herring if there ever was one. The ESP staffers try to get the coach suspended, successfully, and then the now embarrassed admin adds to the mistakes by firing the guy just a day or two short of a $800,000 dollar payout....(follow the money)

Meanwhile, the kid thinks his daddy helped his career when in fact he destroyed it, and the coach knows damn well that in the end he gets his money.

ESPN has far exceeded it's news roll once again, and I would hope that in the end they pay for it, but we shall see. I suppose the university could sue them to recoup what they are about to lose.

37 posted on 01/03/2010 8:49:33 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

I pretty much agree with everythign you wrote but I think this will end up fitting exactly what Rush Limbaugh defines as the drive by media. They drive by, cause panic and confusion, kill reputations and careers and then drive away unnoticed in the excitement and are never help accountable for their actions. The only thing that amazes me is how many times the media can do this and still have any credibility left with people who should know better.


38 posted on 01/03/2010 9:07:16 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

It’s truly amazing they can cause so much havoc and not even be accountable!


39 posted on 01/03/2010 9:10:29 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: the808bass; HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Perhaps you could point us to the evidence of these bribes. That might be the beginning of the punishment for James.

Oh yes, there were payments made to numerous SMU football players and James is one of the many players that took the money.

However, I do find it interesting that some would blame Craig James for the demise of the SMU program while it was Texas Governor Bill Clements who sat on SMU's Board of Governors and approved the payments to Craig James and others.

40 posted on 01/03/2010 10:04:15 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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