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Woodstove Science question for pointy heads.
self | 2 January 2010 | incredulous joe

Posted on 01/02/2010 3:01:30 PM PST by incredulous joe

Natural wonders never cease!

I was just splitting firewood.

It is about 20 degrees with a 10 to 15 degree chill factor, and noticed a spark come off the head of my ax while I spilt one particular log.

I examined the log, but did not find any metal in the wood.

Is it possible that a spark can be generated from steel to wood contact. I have split a lot of wood in my day and I have to say that I have never had this occur previously ~ ever.

Has anyone else? Theories?


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To: incredulous joe

A tiny piece of sand will do it.

I have seen the same thing when hitting a golf ball.


21 posted on 01/02/2010 3:14:05 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: incredulous joe

I’ve seen sparks before when cutting locust, which is a very hard wood.

You’re creating friction, which generates heat. Sparks coming from such a process really isn’t that odd, if you think about it.

If the cherry you were splitting was already seasoned and dry, it makes even more sense.


22 posted on 01/02/2010 3:15:34 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: PA-RIVER

Tiger is that you.


23 posted on 01/02/2010 3:16:07 PM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: incredulous joe
Static electricity.
Did you bite a certs?
24 posted on 01/02/2010 3:16:47 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: tickmeister

My husband gets lots of sparks when he cuts frozen wood with a chain saw (not recommended, by the way).


25 posted on 01/02/2010 3:17:48 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: incredulous joe
'I have never had this occur previously ~ ever.'

Conversely, I've seen that many times. Guess it depends on the ax, the wood and the several other factors. I've always thought it had to do with a fleck of metal - coming from the ax itself.

26 posted on 01/02/2010 3:20:03 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: incredulous joe

Enjoy your wood stove, I really miss mine. I now live where the envirowackos have deemed you have to have a gas fireplace. And it sure ain’t the same.


27 posted on 01/02/2010 3:20:26 PM PST by taillightchaser (When a democrat says "The American people" you know the next words out of his mouth will be lies.)
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To: incredulous joe

Many materials, both natural and man-made, exhibit piezoelectricity:

Wood due to piezoelectric texture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity#Other_natural_materials


28 posted on 01/02/2010 3:23:45 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: incredulous joe

29 posted on 01/02/2010 3:24:10 PM PST by P.O.E. (Happy New Year)
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To: taillightchaser
Hickory has a lot of mineral in it.

Those who manufacture products from hickory can tell you stories about the wear on equipment, etc.

Appalachian oak will have a lot of mineral.

Although I have never heard of mineral in cherry, that does not mean anything. I would bet that cherry grown in the mountains would have some.

But the answer is yes, if it is a wood that has high mineral content, you can get a spark without nails, metal chips, gravel, etc.

30 posted on 01/02/2010 3:26:01 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: cripplecreek
Tiny piece of stone maybe.


31 posted on 01/02/2010 3:27:21 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: tickmeister; All

I presumed it might be the extreme cold. In an effort to get it done quickly, I was wacking the stuff pretty fast and hard.

The wood, which is cherry, is already very hard and dense, but I assume also with crystals of water in it.

I guess you can generate a spark off steel and organic matter ~ I think the stone theory is plausible, as well ~ I’d be curious to know thereal X’s and O’s of such a theory.


32 posted on 01/02/2010 3:30:21 PM PST by incredulous joe ("I like smiling! Smiling is my favorite!!")
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To: tickmeister
I’ve not seen a spark from an axe or maul, but have seen them occasionally from a chain saw chain as I start a cut.

With the chainsaw, that's probably from a little side pressure misalignment or metal to metal contact between the chain and the bar.

33 posted on 01/02/2010 3:31:14 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Deathcare...a solution desperately looking for a problem.)
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To: incredulous joe

I checked with my dad, and he says it is very possible to have those sparks. Says trees grow around stuff, gravel, sand, you already knew a nail or other metal was possible. I think the friction of the axe hitting the dense wood could do it. I wonder if the cold and dry winter air makes it more possible to throw off a spark when chopping wood? I bet dry winter air makes it a lot more likely to happen.

We used to heat our farm house with a Ben Franklin stove when I was a kid, so we all spent plenty of time getting wood for the fire.

Ah the good old days!


34 posted on 01/02/2010 3:32:42 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Take back the GOP-RNC. Apply RINO-B-GONE as needed.)
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To: incredulous joe

It’s static electricity.


35 posted on 01/02/2010 3:34:40 PM PST by Georgia1
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To: petro45acp
“knotty conundrum”

Side splitting humor.

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36 posted on 01/02/2010 3:35:45 PM PST by incredulous joe ("I like smiling! Smiling is my favorite!!")
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To: incredulous joe

Ironwood?

dirt on the axe head?

Don’t axe me!


37 posted on 01/02/2010 3:36:05 PM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think it is possible. I see sparks downhill skiing sometimes when I believe it is only interaction b/n the metal edge of the ski and hard ice.


38 posted on 01/02/2010 3:36:57 PM PST by Tigercap
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To: incredulous joe

Mesquite sometimes has grit in its grain. I’ve never seen it spark, though. But it’s possible there was some grit or sand.


39 posted on 01/02/2010 3:38:19 PM PST by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
"Did you bite a certs?"

Wintergreen Breathsavers with caffiene!


40 posted on 01/02/2010 3:39:05 PM PST by incredulous joe ("I like smiling! Smiling is my favorite!!")
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