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Apple wins appeal in earbud hearing-loss lawsuit
ZDNet Asia ^ | Sam Diaz

Posted on 12/31/2009 8:02:28 AM PST by martin_fierro

Apple wins appeal in earbud hearing-loss lawsuit By Sam Diaz, ZDNet Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:15 AM

Just because something can benefit from some improvement doesn't mean that it's necessarily bad for you. That's basically what a San Francisco appeals court said when it upheld a previous ruling that Apple iPod earbuds cannot be held responsible for hearing loss, according to a Reuters report.

In the ruling, a judge wrote that the plaintiffs didn't offer evidence to show that iPods earbuds were dangerous, only that they believed they could be made safer. The judge wrote:

The plaintiffs do not allege the iPods failed to do anything they were designed to do nor do they allege that they, or any others, have suffered or are substantially certain to suffer inevitable hearing loss or other injury from iPod use. At most, the plaintiffs plead a potential risk of hearing loss not to themselves, but to other unidentified iPod users.

In addition to money damages, the suit wanted a judge to require that Apple improve and provide better earphones, offer disclosures and test iPod users for hearing loss.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: apple; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; lawsuit; microsoftfanboys
In case you hadn't ... er ... heard.
1 posted on 12/31/2009 8:02:29 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: martin_fierro

What?


2 posted on 12/31/2009 8:03:11 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: 6SJ7; Allegra; ambrose; Bella_Bru; Born Conservative; Cagey; Caipirabob; CarrotAndStick; ...
iPod
>> PING <<
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The List of Ping Lists

3 posted on 12/31/2009 8:03:33 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

Heh heh. It’s always a pleasure to see looters eat it.


4 posted on 12/31/2009 8:05:38 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: martin_fierro

As Much as I don’t like Apple, people who listen to overly loud music on earbuds/headphones etc... Deserve the hearing loss they get by doing so.

Common Sense.... It is a rare commodity these days....


5 posted on 12/31/2009 8:06:40 AM PST by GraceG
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To: martin_fierro

when the revolution comes the lawyers will need to be taken out with the first wave


6 posted on 12/31/2009 8:06:47 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: GraceG
Common Sense.... It is a rare commodity these days....

"I'm suing Smith & Wesson!"

7 posted on 12/31/2009 8:13:47 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: martin_fierro

relax, plaintiffs ... there surely is a board or a bureau in that abomination of a health care bill that will step in and resurrect your case, all in the interests of saving healthcare dollars.


8 posted on 12/31/2009 8:14:51 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("'Diversity' is one of those words designed to absolve you of the need to think." Mark Steyn)
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To: martin_fierro

30 years in the Rhythm Section and I suffer high frequency hearing loss in at least my right ear.

Me and Ted Nugent.

I tell ALL my students to wear ear plugs when they practice. You can still hear the music but you have some protection.


9 posted on 12/31/2009 8:18:24 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: martin_fierro

I almost feel sorry for the lawyers who manufactured this case looking for a big payout.

Not.


10 posted on 12/31/2009 8:21:47 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Cobra64

>> “I’m suing Smith & Wesson!” <<

Good luck with that lawsuit, LOL


11 posted on 12/31/2009 8:38:31 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Cobra64

“I’m suing Smith & Wesson!”

Before or after you pull the trigger? LOL


12 posted on 12/31/2009 8:44:52 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: left that other site

Yep! We wear ear plugs to all the concerts we attend... too bad they weren’t as readily available in the 60’s & 70’s. My teenage trombone playing son would have a cow at the suggestion that his hearing is at risk!


13 posted on 12/31/2009 8:46:50 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: GraceG
people who listen to overly loud music on earbuds/headphones etc... Deserve the hearing loss they get by doing so.

I'm actually looking for a blastingly loud am/fm radio or am/fm/cassette-player. If anyone can recommend one that uses 3 batteries (or something that plays REALLY loud), please let me know. I need it in SF, to drown out our blastingly loud non-stop-talking buses. Seriously!

14 posted on 12/31/2009 1:40:07 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Romney, Romney, Romney - on every thread - I'm sick of it! :P - is it gone???)
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Apple wins iPod too loud suit... PING!


iPod too Loud? too Bad! Ping!

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15 posted on 01/01/2010 2:10:01 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: GraceG

Egad, tell me about it.

I have horrible hearing do to an accident during my Navy years and am notoriously shy of places where the music is played too loud.

These days, I sit by kids on the train with ear-buds on and sometimes the music they play is so loud that it can disturb ME!!

I just shake my head and sigh, because I know those kids are going to be as deaf as a fence post in a few years — and it will be entirely their fault.


16 posted on 01/01/2010 2:15:19 AM PST by Ronin
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To: martin_fierro

Three homeless guys in town here were walking along the railroad tracks; one of them was deaf, and was walking right down the middle. The other two got out of the way when they heard the train, and didn’t alert the third, who got run over.

Gotta be related.

Seems to me though, that, homeless or not, if I’m deaf, I’d never be walking between the rails.


17 posted on 01/01/2010 10:13:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year!)
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To: martin_fierro; Star Traveler

Thanks martin for the ping. Appreciate it.

Happy New Year.


18 posted on 01/01/2010 9:50:17 PM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: martin_fierro

Yeesh. Apple already HAS done something about it: IIRC there is a “volume limit” setting on all iPods.


19 posted on 01/02/2010 7:22:18 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Virtue is to be apologized for. Depravity commands respect. - Galt)
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But you have to USE the volume limit. Every single loud “music” ipod listener I know would just override the limiter anyway and/or buy earphones that are more efficient (ie - louder with same power).

I too have some fairly pronounced hearing loss, particularly in higher frequencies - too many years participating in marching drum lines, playing drum set, and loud music in my car. When I was band directing, we had a rule on the bus (same one as when I was a student) - no loud music on the bus - as in, bring headphones. Don’t try to entertain the whole buss. Well - kids with ipods and other portable electronics would have those earbuds in - and I could be sitting several seats away and know exactly what song was playing, and if it was one I knew - sing along... They are doomed to far worse hearing than my own. And no amount of convincing would change their ways.


20 posted on 01/03/2010 1:18:31 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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