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Solution to killer superbug found in Norway (MRSA)
Associated Press ^ | Dec 30, 2009 | MARTHA MENDOZA and MARGIE MASON

Posted on 12/30/2009 3:43:21 PM PST by decimon

OSLO, Norway – Aker University Hospital is a dingy place to heal. The floors are streaked and scratched. A light layer of dust coats the blood pressure monitors. A faint stench of urine and bleach wafts from a pile of soiled bedsheets dropped in a corner.

Look closer, however, at a microscopic level, and this place is pristine. There is no sign of a dangerous and contagious staph infection that killed tens of thousands of patients in the most sophisticated hospitals of Europe, North America and Asia this year, soaring virtually unchecked.

The reason: Norwegians stopped taking so many drugs.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: antibiotics; healthcare; infections; mrsa; norway; superbugs
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• Norwegian doctors prescribe fewer antibiotics than any other country, so people do not have a chance to develop resistance to them.

People develop the resistance or bacteria do?

1 posted on 12/30/2009 3:43:22 PM PST by decimon
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To: neverdem; Pharmboy

Nor way ping.


2 posted on 12/30/2009 3:44:00 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

The pharmaceutical companies will quickly declare this heresy.


3 posted on 12/30/2009 3:49:03 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: decimon

I have twice seen MRSA cured by the use of AMD dressings on the site of the infection. AMD stands for anti microbial dressing, and they are highly effective.


4 posted on 12/30/2009 3:49:26 PM PST by chris37
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To: chris37

I wash my hands a little too much and sometimes the skin will get red and cracked, so I spray them down with Lysol and wear gloves soaked in lotion, by the next morning my hands are almost as good as new. I always use Lysol if I have ran out of neosporin.


5 posted on 12/30/2009 3:54:46 PM PST by GraceG
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To: decimon

So lack of life saving medicine is now seen as a positive? And we thought the DDT ban killed needlessly.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 3:54:53 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I have twice seen MRSA cured by the use of AMD dressings on the site of the infection.

Do you know what is the curative agent in AMD dressings?

7 posted on 12/30/2009 3:55:07 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Too MUCH medicine is being prescribed (that is the old profit motive, again). Vinegar, saline water and alcohol are perfectly good substitutes for control of most of the pathogens we encounter, and antibiotics should only be brought in when common practice of hygiene and sanitation have failed to stem the infection.

The human body has had, for eons, an almost uncanny ability to fight off practically every pathogen encountered. In the normal state of things, only a few of the bugs out there are pathogenic, and they are kept largely in check by making the environment not conducive to their continued expansion of numbers, like control of pH, or mineral content of the aqueous solution, or temperature, or simple scrubbing off at reasonably frequent intervals.


8 posted on 12/30/2009 3:55:56 PM PST by alloysteel (....the Kennedys can be regarded as dysfunctional. Even in death.)
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To: driftdiver
So lack of life saving medicine is now seen as a positive?

They're speaking of overuse and misuse. Even in this forum I've seen MDs complain that patients demand antibiotics when not needed and will change physicians to get them.

9 posted on 12/30/2009 4:00:53 PM PST by decimon
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To: GraceG

Remember Phiso-hex (sp)liquid soap? It used to be used all over the place, I remember seeing it in many doctor offices and surgical prep stations. No longer on the market. Plus,
I seem to recall all that vigorous scrubbing could cause micoabrasions and be subject to infection. I don’t use Purel or those other alcohol based purifiers. Good old soap and water.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 4:01:57 PM PST by SueRae
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To: decimon

MRSA is eliminated by Manuka Honey...


11 posted on 12/30/2009 4:04:03 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: decimon

The box of Kendall AMD dressing indicates that each dressing contains 0.2% Ployhexmethylene Biguanide. No other agent is indicated.


12 posted on 12/30/2009 4:16:52 PM PST by chris37
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No it is not. Trust me on that.

The person that I know who had MRSA had two consecutive infections. The first was smaller, and manuka honey seemed to affect it positively. The second infection was quite a bit larger, and manuka honey had zero effect. Only the Kendall AMD bandages affected it positively and quickly.


13 posted on 12/30/2009 4:20:26 PM PST by chris37
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To: decimon

Mrsa sucks.


14 posted on 12/30/2009 4:20:39 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: SueRae

Hexachlorophene used to be available in bar soap as well before it got banned as a possible carcinogen. Phisoderm just didn’t cut it like Phisohex. I still see Phisohex at the hospitals.


15 posted on 12/30/2009 4:21:27 PM PST by printhead
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To: chris37

My two bouts of mrsa never involved “sites”. They were abscesses in the epidural space of the spine. Although the decolonization protocol is bathing with Hiciclens, putting some ointment up the nose, and gargling periodex. Too little to late.


16 posted on 12/30/2009 4:24:27 PM PST by goseminoles
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The box of Kendall AMD dressing indicates that each dressing contains 0.2% Ployhexmethylene Biguanide.

Thanks. That's a few syllables beyond my pay grade but maybe not someone else.

17 posted on 12/30/2009 4:29:30 PM PST by decimon
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To: goseminoles

Yes I have heard of internal incidents of MRSA, such as inside the lungs...

This person I am referring had three separate MRSA infections that I know of. Aside from the two that I described, another identical infection occurred about a year earlier. It was topical, and it was diagnosed as MRSA. It was also sent away to a lab to be verified as required by state law.


18 posted on 12/30/2009 4:30:55 PM PST by chris37
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To: printhead; All

Hibiclens topical wash kills pretty much anything. AKA Chlorhexidine Gluconate solution 4%, it’s available OTC.


19 posted on 12/30/2009 4:36:45 PM PST by Third Person (Happy New Year!)
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To: decimon

“They’re speaking of overuse and misuse. “

Understand, however notice in the recent weeks the ‘studies’ which show modern medicine as being unnecessary. Everything from pap smears, mammograms, and now life saving antibiotics.

Hospitals are a key component to the transmission of many infections.


20 posted on 12/30/2009 4:37:57 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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