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• Norwegian doctors prescribe fewer antibiotics than any other country, so people do not have a chance to develop resistance to them.

People develop the resistance or bacteria do?

1 posted on 12/30/2009 3:43:22 PM PST by decimon
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To: neverdem; Pharmboy

Nor way ping.


2 posted on 12/30/2009 3:44:00 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

The pharmaceutical companies will quickly declare this heresy.


3 posted on 12/30/2009 3:49:03 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: decimon

I have twice seen MRSA cured by the use of AMD dressings on the site of the infection. AMD stands for anti microbial dressing, and they are highly effective.


4 posted on 12/30/2009 3:49:26 PM PST by chris37
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To: decimon

So lack of life saving medicine is now seen as a positive? And we thought the DDT ban killed needlessly.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 3:54:53 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: decimon

Too MUCH medicine is being prescribed (that is the old profit motive, again). Vinegar, saline water and alcohol are perfectly good substitutes for control of most of the pathogens we encounter, and antibiotics should only be brought in when common practice of hygiene and sanitation have failed to stem the infection.

The human body has had, for eons, an almost uncanny ability to fight off practically every pathogen encountered. In the normal state of things, only a few of the bugs out there are pathogenic, and they are kept largely in check by making the environment not conducive to their continued expansion of numbers, like control of pH, or mineral content of the aqueous solution, or temperature, or simple scrubbing off at reasonably frequent intervals.


8 posted on 12/30/2009 3:55:56 PM PST by alloysteel (....the Kennedys can be regarded as dysfunctional. Even in death.)
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To: decimon

MRSA is eliminated by Manuka Honey...


11 posted on 12/30/2009 4:04:03 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: decimon

Mrsa sucks.


14 posted on 12/30/2009 4:20:39 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: decimon


But Norway’s public health system fought back with an aggressive program
that made it the most infection-free country in the world.
A key part of that program was cutting back severely on the use
of antibiotics.

Having survived what sure seemed to be a MRSA-style attack on my
left leg in 1994...I hope some (hopefully more than a couple)
groups investigate this.
(I survived three repeat flare-ups...by telling my doctors at Kaiser-Permanente
that “I had it before, I’ve got it again, now give me the antibiotics
I MUST have or my successors will sue Kaiser and YOU personally!!!)

I keep my mind open, but my initial thought is that this may have
been a Dick Lamb-style “Let’s leave Grandma on the porch next winter”
type of program.
(Yeah, a Democratic governor from Colorado that saw denial of healthcare
and euthanasia as a win-win: less money expended on healthcare and
getting Grandma out of the way before her time was up.)


22 posted on 12/30/2009 4:43:56 PM PST by VOA
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What are the death rates from infection...I no longertrust overseas stats when I discover that some countries do not count a baby as a live birth until they are seven days old.


24 posted on 12/30/2009 4:47:23 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve.)
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To: decimon

“People develop the resistance or bacteria do?”

My quick answer to your question is “Yes”.

Bacteria develop resistance to antibiotics. Antibiotics adversely effect the immune systems of people. This combination leads to infections that no longer can be treated successfully.

It is possible that MRSA and other antibiotic resistant strains result by the bugs themselves become resistant to treatment, and then people who have weakened immune systems can more readily be infected with the resistant strains.

Norway’s approach by significantly reducing the use of antibiotics seems sound, based on the above assumptions.

There are non-antibiotic treatments for MRSA that have been successful. Minimal cost, maximized effectiveness. Not likely to be used in allopathic treatments because they cut into profits - drug companies, hospitals and doctors do not make money when people are no longer sick.

Kudos to the Norwegians.


36 posted on 12/31/2009 11:32:29 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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