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New study sharpens focus on problems of obesity (thin is in)
AFP ^ | Dec 22, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 12/23/2009 5:11:16 AM PST by decimon

PARIS (AFP) – Cardiovascular disease linked to obesity may be worse than thought while health problems associated with being underweight may have been overstated, according to a study published by the British Medical Journal (BMJ) on Wednesday.

The paper, written by doctors in Britain and Sweden, seeks to finetune a well-known tool -- the body mass index (BMI) -- which is used to measure obesity and ill-health.

BMI entails taking one's weight in kilos and dividing it by the square of one's height, in metres. A BMI of 25-30 is generally considered overweight. while a figure of above 30 indicates obesity.

Previous studies have already found a big link between BMI and higher risk of death from cardiovascular disease, diabetes and some cancers.

In contrast, a low BMI -- in other words, people who are very skinny -- is associated with increased mortality from respiratory disease and lung cancer.

But many experts have questioned the findings about low BMI, arguing that the figures could be skewed by something called reverse causality.

For instance, diseases such as lung cancer, which cause weight loss, are being factored in as low BMI, they argue. And smoking and poor socioeconomic circumstances may also cause bias.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: bmi; bmiindex; obesity
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1 posted on 12/23/2009 5:11:17 AM PST by decimon
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To: neverdem; Pharmboy

Too rich, too thin or too pinged ping.


2 posted on 12/23/2009 5:12:17 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

thanks for the post!


3 posted on 12/23/2009 5:12:41 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: GOP Poet
thanks for the post!

You're welcome, Slim. ;-)

4 posted on 12/23/2009 5:14:06 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
It's actually very simple to do your own research on this. Ask yourself: How many people >85 y/o have I known who were obese? How many normal weight or thin?

We don' need no steenkin' study...

5 posted on 12/23/2009 5:18:02 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: decimon

After then next worldwide famine, the fat people will be the only ones left.


6 posted on 12/23/2009 5:18:45 AM PST by 1raider1
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To: Pharmboy
We don’ need no steenkin’ study... “

Yup.
Yet another waste of tax payer money to do “research” to “confirm” what everyone knows already.
Where else do we spend billions of dollars svery year on weight loss programs?

7 posted on 12/23/2009 5:27:50 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: 1raider1

...until they get eaten by the hungry people.


8 posted on 12/23/2009 5:28:05 AM PST by AF_Blue ("Are you guys ready? Let's roll!" - Todd Beamer)
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To: 1raider1

“After then next worldwide famine, the fat people will be the only ones left.”

Let’s put it this way: Neither being too fat or being too thin is good for anyone’s health. Plenty of very think, underfed African children in very bad health out there.


9 posted on 12/23/2009 5:29:48 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Correction: “..very thin..”.


10 posted on 12/23/2009 5:30:36 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Pharmboy
Ask yourself: How many people >85 y/o have I known who were obese?

Could that as well be reverse causality? There may be any number of reasons a person wouldn't or couldn't eat as much when old as when younger.

11 posted on 12/23/2009 5:31:19 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Not really...the great majority of older people would not have lived an obese life only to lose the weight in the later years. Nope...fat folks don’t usually make it past 80.


12 posted on 12/23/2009 5:42:44 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy
Nope...fat folks don’t usually make it past 80.

Okay. How about the "too rich" part? :-)

13 posted on 12/23/2009 5:50:06 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

An elderly relative of mine who recently passed away at an advanced age lived the last years of his life in a retirement community. He often commented, “Look around at the people here and notice that there aren’t any fat people.” He was right. There weren’t any fat people there.


14 posted on 12/23/2009 5:51:27 AM PST by randita (Chains you can bereave in.)
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To: decimon

Was thin ever out?????


15 posted on 12/23/2009 5:59:33 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Was thin ever out?????

Let's break this down logically. A garment is worn out and is worn out when thinned to threadbare.

Crystal clear?

16 posted on 12/23/2009 6:53:25 AM PST by decimon
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To: 1raider1

“After then next worldwide famine, the fat people will be the only ones left.”

Yeah but they won’t be fat anymore. lol


17 posted on 12/23/2009 7:08:23 AM PST by tob2 (I would rather have a nuclear power plant in my backyard than Gitmo detainees.)
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To: Pharmboy

I disagree. I have seen lots of people who go into assisted living and nursing home overweight and due to no access to food beyond meals, thin out considerable.


18 posted on 12/23/2009 7:26:02 AM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve.)
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To: decimon
Wanna bet a donut under the new obamanationcare weight reduction and cig smoking will get you sent to some sort of center to cure you. Oh and you nasty gun owners are next on the list, as gun crime/deaths are a public health concern.

Ask them why they HATE Seniors, Veterans and retired Military!

local contact and fax numbers for Senators (demwits)

Email them but the Phone is the best route.

Remind them that obamanationcare effects EVERY ONE!

VA cuts, retired Military..Tri Care for Life (nearly $5,000 in new fees) 8% cut in Medicare, increased premiums, 15% cut to nursing homes and for Pete's sake why are we creating a new tax on special needs kids?

bill would REDUCE SENIOR Medicare

Health-Care Reform 2009

Report: Bill would reduce senior care Medicare cuts approved by House may affect access to providers

Lori Montgomery

Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 15, 2009

A plan to slash more than $500 billion from future Medicare spending -- one of the biggest sources of funding for President Obama's proposed overhaul of the nation's health-care system -- would sharply reduce benefits for some senior citizens and could jeopardize access to care for millions of others, according to a government evaluation released Saturday.

The report, requested by House Republicans, found that Medicare cuts contained in the health package approved by the House on Nov. 7 are likely to prove so costly to hospitals and nursing homes that they could stop taking Medicare altogether.

AND if you are Retired Military on Tri Care for Life, which many Millions are, you are in for a nearly $5,000 NEW fee along with the increased premiums for the REDUCED Medicare benefits.

bill would Introduce NEW nearly $5,000 fee to TRL

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

November 6, 2009 | Rep Buyer abd Rep McKeon bill would cut VA benefits http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

19 posted on 12/23/2009 7:59:10 AM PST by GailA (JESUS is Christmas! Cradle in the shadow of a Cross)
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To: GailA

I have one problem with your post. And with most of the ostensibly conservative radio mouths. What’s the problem? The problem is that yesterday’s socialism becomes today’s conservatism.

VA benefits are a special category but you are decrying cuts in Medicare and the like. What’s with that?

I have to duck out for a few hours so if you reply and I don’t respond then I’m not ducking you or anyone else.


20 posted on 12/23/2009 8:24:19 AM PST by decimon
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