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New Orleans, Much of Southern Florida, Expected to Be Permanently Submerged (Global Warming)
Science Daily ^ | 12-18-2009

Posted on 12/18/2009 9:19:42 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

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To: My Favorite Headache

Take a large bucket, throw in a big block of ice, then fill it with water. Now watch it melt and get back to me.

Melted yet? Good, now what happened?

I wish me Vodka Tonic would double in size once the ice melts, but alas - it is still the same amount. :(


41 posted on 12/18/2009 9:44:23 AM PST by Chattering Class of 58
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To: My Favorite Headache

Not Florida!


42 posted on 12/18/2009 9:44:39 AM PST by OB1kNOb (All FReepers need to pray Psalms 109:8 daily for Barack Obama. (Look it up. I'm serious.))
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To: My Favorite Headache

We just need to sell them some “fan boats” like they had on the TV show Gentle Ben


43 posted on 12/18/2009 9:47:05 AM PST by JD91
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To: My Favorite Headache

Duh! New Orleans is destined to be underwater because it is already under sea level and shouldn’t have been built there in the first place, NOT because of global warming.


44 posted on 12/18/2009 9:47:39 AM PST by madison10
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To: My Favorite Headache

I am sooooooooooooo scaaaaaaaaaaared.


45 posted on 12/18/2009 9:53:26 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

New Orleans, not so much.

I’ll miss Mardi Gras in New Orleans....

final fours and Super Bowls in New Orleans are a blast also....


46 posted on 12/18/2009 9:54:24 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: HIDEK6

“It seems to me that I remeber from grade school science that if you melt ice, the volume decreases by about 10%.”

Isn’t that why forgotten cans of soda explode in the freezer?


47 posted on 12/18/2009 9:55:51 AM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Let me see If I put ice cubes in a glass and fill the glass with water what will happen when the ice cubes melt?.


48 posted on 12/18/2009 9:55:55 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: My Favorite Headache

Honest, losing Miami will improve the area.


49 posted on 12/18/2009 9:59:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

The sooner the better.


50 posted on 12/18/2009 10:00:13 AM PST by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: My Favorite Headache

This last part of this ‘study’ sounds like the Planet is a middle-aged mother, suffering menopause:

“The study was written by Robert Kopp, who conducted the work as a postdoctoral researcher in Princeton’s Department of Geosciences and Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs; Frederik Simons, an assistant professor of geosciences at Princeton; Jerry Mitrovica, a professor of geophysics at Harvard; Adam Maloof, an assistant professor of geosciences at Princeton; and Michael Oppenheimer, a professor of geosciences and international affairs in Princeton’s Woodrow Wilson School.

As part of the study, the researchers compiled an extensive database of geological sea level indicators for a period known as the last interglacial stage about 125,000 years ago. Polar temperatures during this stage were likely 3 to 5 degrees Celsius (5 to 9 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than today, as is expected to occur in the future if temperatures reach about 2 to 3 degrees Celsius (about 4 to 6 degrees Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels.

“The last interglacial stage provides a historical analog for futures with a fairly moderate amount of warming; the high sea levels during the stage suggest that significant chunks of major ice sheets could disappear over a period of centuries in such futures,” Kopp said. “Yet if the global economy continues to depend heavily on fossil fuels, we’re on track to have significantly more warming by the end of century than occurred during the last interglacial. I find this somewhat worrisome.”

Oppenheimer added, “Despite the uncertainties inherent in such a study, these findings should send a strong message to the governments negotiating in Copenhagen that the time to avoid disastrous outcomes may run out sooner than expected.”

Previous geological studies of sea level benchmarks such as coral reefs and beaches had shown that, at many localities, local sea levels during the last interglacial stage were higher than today. But local sea levels differ from those in this earlier stage; one major contributing factor is that the changing masses of the ice sheets alter the planet’s gravitational field and deform the solid Earth. As a consequence, inferring global sea level from local geological sea level markers requires a geographically broad data set, a model of the physics of sea level, and a means to integrate the two. The study’s authors provide all three, integrating the data and the physics with a statistical approach that allows them to assess the probability distribution of past global sea level and its rate of change.

The researchers determined through their analysis that there is a 95 percent probability that, during the last interglacial stage, global sea level peaked more than 6.6 meters (22 feet) above its present level. They further found that it is unlikely (with a 33 percent probability) that global sea level during this period exceeded 9.4 meters (31 feet).

Sea levels during the last interglacial stage are of interest to scientists and important to policymakers for several reasons. Most notably, the last interglacial stage is relatively recent by geological standards, making it feasible for climate scientists to develop a credible sea level record for the period, and is the most recent time period when average global temperatures and polar temperatures were somewhat higher than today. Because it was slightly warmer, the period can help scientists understand the stability of polar ice sheets and the future rate of sea level rise under low to moderate global warming scenarios.

The findings indicate that sea level during the last interglacial stage rose for centuries at least two to three times faster than the recent rate, and that both the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheet likely shrank significantly and made important contributions to sea level rise. However, the relative timing of temperature change and sea level change during the last interglacial stage is fairly uncertain, so it is not possible to infer from the analysis how long an exposure to peak temperatures during this stage was needed to commit the planet to peak sea levels.”

I suppose we’re to conclude the last Ice Age would not have happened had Obama and his Copenhagen team existed then?

Look, guys — if this happened naturally then, how could we have caused a repeat now?

This is as bad as saying, “It was on fire before I lay down...”


51 posted on 12/18/2009 10:00:43 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
employs a novel statistical approach

So, this isn't based on anything as mundane as historical sea levels or archeology, it's another damn computer model. And as we now know, those are based on cooked data.

52 posted on 12/18/2009 10:02:40 AM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Oh dear me! Where are all the looting Dems and vote fraud greyhair Dem seniors going to live???? deary me!!!!


53 posted on 12/18/2009 10:05:37 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: cripplecreek

You can’t ignore’em because as soon as you do they’ll start trying to shoot chaff into the upper atmosphere, or impose a massive carbon tax on all carbon based life forms or other silliness.


54 posted on 12/18/2009 10:06:02 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Thank goodness for mobile homes!


55 posted on 12/18/2009 10:06:33 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed Martin Luther King Jr.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

When people say they employed “novel statistical methods”, keep a hand on your wallet.


56 posted on 12/18/2009 10:07:11 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: dumpthelibs

Winter in the Rockies blows too.


57 posted on 12/18/2009 10:09:46 AM PST by LFOD (Presently - Back in Dixie)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Someone in South Florida said they needed a dike and Janet Reno showed up.


58 posted on 12/18/2009 10:12:16 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: My Favorite Headache

I’m glad my condo’s on the 20th floor...
Planning Ahead always pays off.


59 posted on 12/18/2009 10:13:05 AM PST by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: My Favorite Headache

JSTFU, will you?


60 posted on 12/18/2009 10:24:18 AM PST by pabianice
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