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Historic guns cause unease (Flintlocks!)
Battleboro Reformer ^ | Dec 16 2009 | Jaime Cone

Posted on 12/18/2009 6:33:28 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814

WHITINGHAM -- When history buff James Dassatti was asked to do a presentation for a U.S. history class at the Twin Valley Middle School, he wanted to pull out all the stops.

As a Revolutionary and Civil War re-enactor and executive director of the Living History Association, Dassatti owns elaborate, historically accurate costumes that he wears for such occasions.

One of his goals is to help people imagine what fighting in a war must have been like, and his presentation isn’t really complete without allowing the audience to see live replicas of old firearms, he said.

So he was disappointed when, while making preparations, he was notified by the eighth-grade teacher that the Twin Valley School Board would not allow him to bring the historical muskets to school.

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Ed Metcalfe, Twin Valley School Board chairman, said the board decided to stick to its guns when it comes to its no tolerance weapons policy because the precedent had already been set.

"These are funtioning weapons, even though there is no ammunition, and basically we feel that times have changed," Metcalfe said.

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1 posted on 12/18/2009 6:33:28 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814
"These are funtioning weapons, even though there is no ammunition, and basically we feel that times have changed," Metcalfe said.

It's all about feeeeelings and not using your brain.

2 posted on 12/18/2009 6:35:52 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

Hey man, guns are scary and bad!


3 posted on 12/18/2009 6:37:46 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

We don’t want children to learn anything, just to feel what we want them to feel.


4 posted on 12/18/2009 6:37:54 AM PST by GeronL
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I own and shoot flintlocks on a regular basis, I think they are more fun to shoot then anything else. When you know what you are doing, they are accurate and deadly.

Flintlocks may be hundreds of years old, but they will still kill someone deader then hell.


5 posted on 12/18/2009 6:40:23 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
LOL!!

Nothing scares Liberals more than unloaded guns...cause you know, it might just go off for no reason... :)

6 posted on 12/18/2009 6:41:41 AM PST by NMEwithin
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Now if he brought condoms and some erotica, then he’s A-OK.

Idiot schools.


7 posted on 12/18/2009 6:42:38 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
I wonder if they still let him illustrate on a manikin, what it was like to run someone through with a spear-tip on the end of a flagstaff?
8 posted on 12/18/2009 6:44:06 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Carbonsteel
Flintlocks may be hundreds of years old, but they will still kill someone deader then hell.

Yep. I shoot 'em, too.

However, it would not exactly be the weapon of choice for a shooting rampage.

But then, it might be one of those semi-automatic assault flintolcks loaded up with an endless supply of teflon-coated hypervelocity cop-killer bullets...(/sarc)

Common sense left the school system ages ago. No wonder so many kids have to be taught to pour water out of a boot with the directions written on the heel...

9 posted on 12/18/2009 6:45:45 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: NMEwithin
Nothing scares Liberals more than unloaded guns...cause you know, it might just go off for no reason... :)

You never know, some colonial could have committed a driveby with one of those flintlocks. You know, drives up in a carriage, sticks the musket five feet out the window, click, hiss, wait a second, then boom. Pulls it in, yells "Hold on folks!", takes 20 seconds to reload and pack the powder, etc., then repeat.

10 posted on 12/18/2009 6:46:29 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
...the board decided to stick to its guns when it comes to its no tolerance weapons policy...

Intentional pun?
Cars are every bit as dangerous as guns but nobody freaks out over cars.
Historical flintlocks... come on!
The board should be able to grant exceptions once safety concerns have been addressed.
Zero Tolerance is Intolerance.
11 posted on 12/18/2009 6:49:53 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1
Cars are every bit as dangerous as guns but nobody freaks out over cars.

True....but cars are less likely to allow the citizenry to successfully resist tyrannical government.

12 posted on 12/18/2009 6:50:46 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
"...and basically we feel that times have changed," Metcalfe said.

Times may have changed, but human nature hasn't. Nor is all "change" change for the Good.

Personal arms carried by individuals for their own defense, or even the defense of others, is a Founding Right of every US Citizen.

Idiot political hacks masquerading as educators are doing a grave disservice to our Countries upcoming Generations. Those doing it deliberately are actively engaging in Sedition.

13 posted on 12/18/2009 6:51:02 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Powder..patch..ball FIRE!

Not all flintlocks are hundreds of years old...

I have a flintlock musket that was made in 1904. It is a Belgium African trade item that was to be paid for with ivory.

66 caliber, 42” barrel and it sounds like a lion’s cough when it gets lit up.


14 posted on 12/18/2009 6:51:43 AM PST by BallandPowder
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I was talking to a very Liberal female friend of mine and I told her that I have a few guns in my house (handguns, rifles). I have no kids so it's just my wife and I. So my friend asks if I keep them locked up and I tell her I have most of them locked up except for the .45 I keep loaded in my bedside table.

The look of utter shock on her face was priceless...she asks, "You keep it loaded? aren't you afraid it will go off?"

LOL!!

15 posted on 12/18/2009 6:52:55 AM PST by NMEwithin
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To: GL of Sector 2814

IF I had to school today, I would be expelled in short order.
I used to comb the library for “Colby” books on weapons, fighting vehicles and aircraft, and for history books on WWI, WWII, and for biographies of leaders and soldiers. I used to doodle battle scenes and weapons. At Scouts we had people demonstrate flintlocks, and we made shields, tomahawks and spears to play “indians.”

None of these things are allowed today. I suspect most of them would get you expelled.

I guess I’m lucky I have daughters that are not interested in these things. Otherwise, I’d be locked in continual battle with the school board.


16 posted on 12/18/2009 6:58:36 AM PST by Little Ray (Cheney / Norris in 2012!)
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To: Disambiguator

Ed Metcalf is a pu$$y.

Pass it on.


17 posted on 12/18/2009 7:02:03 AM PST by x1stcav (Charter member of the Yukon Army..)
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To: Little Ray
None of these things are allowed today. I suspect most of them would get you expelled.

When I was in high school, I played the character of Jud in "Oklahoma!", and fired my father's Ruger Blackhawk .357 magnum on stage (using blanks, of course). With the director's permission, mind you.

Today they'd call in a SWAT team...

18 posted on 12/18/2009 7:02:20 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814 (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark -- Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Liberals are insane.


19 posted on 12/18/2009 7:03:44 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 48... 47... 46...)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Ok, so I can see both sides. One, there are rules against guns on school property and those rules don’t distinguish between Saturday night specials and working colonial era replicas. I’ve made a couple of those replicas from kits and sure they take forever and a day to load but perhaps if he brought non-working replicas that would be a different story. It wouldn’t have taken him long to disable it and everyone would have been happy.

Junior gave a class presentation a couple years ago and got permission from the principal to bring various weapons (not a gun). No fuss, no muss, permission granted, no biggie. A couple years before that I found a .22 in the restroom and no one got their panties in a wad, but then this is Texas where students always bring in pics to share of what they bagged over the weekend.

Back in the day, everyone had a shotgun in our headache racks, ammo rolled all over the pickup, and we’d park their vehicles in the school parking lot with the windows rolled down. We’d also have knives in our boots and Skoal in our back pockets.


20 posted on 12/18/2009 7:08:45 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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