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OBAMA'S WON'T CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS
THE OBAMA FILE ^ | 12/12/2009 | Beckwith

Posted on 12/12/2009 1:26:00 PM PST by patriot08

Obamas Won't Celebrate Christmas

A survey of adult Americans finds that an overwhelming majority prefer the seasonal expression "Merry Christmas." More than seven out of ten, in fact. Twenty-two percent, according to Rasmussen Reports, go for "Happy Holidays."

However, the Obamas, who won't spend their first December holidays in the White House, apparently don't like either one.

The Obamas have just mailed thousands of greeting cards that say simply, "Season's Greetings." They're cream-colored, maroon-bordered cards showing a gold wreath wrapped around the presidential coat of arms.

The Obamas' card, paid for by the Democratic National Committee, makes no religious reference whatsoever. "May your family have a joyous holiday season," says the Obamas' greeting, "and a new year blessed with hope and happiness." This comes after reports that, initially anyway, the Obama White House planned its first Christmas to be a "non-religious" one, kind of like a non-sports Super Bowl Sunday.

However

Barack Obama doesn't want to offend the sensibilities of folks who aren't Christian by celebrating Christmas, and avoids any reference to the birth of Christ -- even though it's a federal holiday -- at least that's his excuse.

But the "alleged" Christian, who rarely, if ever, attends Christian services, has no problem offending Christians by attending services in a mosque.

The photo above (left) was taken in a mosque in Istanbul, Turkey. It shows Obama preparing for an Islamic service taking place in the Sultan Ahmed Mosque.

And in the right photo, Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan remove their shoes as they visit the Blue Mosque with Muslim clerics Emrullah Hatipoglu (R) and Mustafa Cagrici (L) in Istanbul, Turkey.

These photos were taken during Obama's trip to Turkey, last Spring, when Obama said, that Americans "do not consider ourselves a Christian nation..." Obama has made similar statements in the past. In June 2007, he told CBS, "Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation -- at least, not just.

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But that’s not what the U.S. Supreme Court ruled when, in Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 143 U.S. 437 (1892), they held that "this is a Christian nation." They meant that this nation was founded on Judeo-Christian biblical principles, and that those who brought these biblical principles to this land and who implemented those principles in our system of government were for the most part professing Christians who were actively involved with Christian churches -- 51 of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention were members of Christian churches, and that leading American political figures in the founding era quoted the Bible far more than any other source.

And the ideals on which they framed the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution -- that man is subject to the laws of nature and of nature’s God, that God created man equal and endowed him with basic unalienable rights, that human nature is sinful and therefore government power must be carefully restrained by the Constitution -- are ideals that they derived, directly or indirectly, from the Bible. Some of these ideals may be shared by those of other religious traditions. But the Founding Fathers, with few exceptions, did not read the Koran, or the Upanishads, or the Bagavigita. They read the Bible, and they heard the Bible preached on Sunday mornings.

Besides denying that America is a Christian nation in his April 6 news conference in Turkey, President Obama told the Turkish Parliament on the same day: " We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world -- including in my own country."

The suggestion that Islam has shaped America in any substantial way is ludicrious. As Robert Spencer asks:

Were there Muslims along Paul Revere’s ride, or standing next to Patrick Henry when he proclaimed, "Give me liberty or give me death"? Where there Muslims among the framers or signers of the Declaration of Independence, which states that all men -- not just Muslims, as Islamic law would have it -- are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Were there Muslims among those who drafted the Constitution and vigorously debated its provisions, or among those who enumerated the Bill of Rights, which guarantees -- again in contradiction to the tenets of Islamic law -- that there should be no established national religion, and that the freedom of speech should not be infringed?

The primary contact our Founding Fathers had with Islam occurred during their struggles with the Barbary pirates, who from 1500-1800 carried over a million European Christians -- including some Americans -- into Muslim slavery. For centuries the Knights of Malta protected Europe from the Barbary pirates, but after their demise the European powers decided that paying tribute to the Barbary rulers in exchange for protection was easier and cheaper than fighting them. (Hello Somali pirates!!). But this galled the Americans. In 1786, while Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were in Europe, they asked the ambassador from Tripoli by what right Tripoli could claim tribute from nations which had done his country no injury. Jefferson and Adams reported the ambassador’s response:

It was written in their Koran that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet [Mohammed] were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful [Muslims] to plunder and enslave; and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

When Jefferson became president in 1801, he refused to pay tribute to the Barbary states, and Tripoli, Algiers, and Tunis declared war on the United States. The American Navy blockaded the coast of North Africa, and American marines stormed "the shores of Tripoli" and captured the city, forcing the Barbary rulers to agree to terms of peace. The Barbary states soon broke the treaty and demanded tribute again, and President James Madison again sent the U.S. Navy to the Mediterranean, forcing the Barbary states to again sign a treaty of peace.

Clearly, Islamic influence on the United States was minimal, and what little influence there was, was mostly negative.

Much of the Muslim world has a negative view of the United States. Sadly, Obama seems to think the Muslim world will warm up to our country if he shares their negative view.


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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Heck, I’d just settle for Obama to be out of office...


41 posted on 12/12/2009 2:57:53 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: patriot08
Hey O'Bummer...


42 posted on 12/12/2009 2:58:47 PM PST by jaz.357 ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." W.Churchill)
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To: patriot08

In 2008 President Bush made no reference to “Christmas” either... although he did include on verse from Matthew (but it doesn’t mention Christmas there, either... ).

This is something that has been going on for a while in our society. President Bush also sent out other Christmas cards (prior to 2008) which did not mention “Christmas” either.

I think one time there was a controversy (with President Bush) over a “Christmas tree” being on a card sent to Jews... LOL...

It’s the way things are going now, whether it’s a Republican or Democrat, it appears to me... (and by direct observation of what President Bush did...).


43 posted on 12/12/2009 3:07:02 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
me too!!!

She didn't wear a belt and where is the Bible verse like the Bushes had?


44 posted on 12/12/2009 3:07:28 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: patriot08
Didn't he celebrate Up-yor-id or whatever it was the Swine recently celebrated?

ML/NJ

45 posted on 12/12/2009 3:11:57 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Star Traveler

2008 inscription:

“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:16

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2147928/posts

2007:

You alone are the LORD.
You made the heavens, even the highest heavens,
and all their starry host, the earth and all that is on it,
the seas and all that is in them.
You give life to everything,
and the multitudes of heaven worship you.
NEHEMIAH 9:6 (NIV)

But whereas in previous years the President and the First Lady opted for messages of happiness, goodwill, and peace, this year featured the following closer:

May the joy of all creation fill your heart this blessed season 2007.

It is then signed by both George and Laura Bush.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/13/the-white-houses-super-c_n_76648.html


46 posted on 12/12/2009 3:12:09 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: eleni121

I can’t and won’t post it but in google someone made a nativity scene picture card with Obama as the baby Jesus.
NOT FUNNY!


47 posted on 12/12/2009 3:13:12 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: patriot08
An example of what some people saw in George Bush (or Laura Bush, at least... LOL...).


WHY DID LAURA BUSH SEND OUT CHRISTMAS CARDS FEATURING THE EGYPTIAN SATANIC PHOENIX BIRD?  WHY IS SHE FOLLOWING IN FOOTSTEPS OF HILLARY CLINTON!

Subtitle: Phoenix Bird has roots in the Egyptian Satanic Mysteries, the religion God brought into judgment as He delivered Israel from Pharaoh. This cursed religion has been revived by Freemasonry and Skull & Bones, and now is one of the Illuminist symbols for Antichrist!

The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once you understand what this New World Order really is, and how it is being gradually implemented, you will be able to see it progressing in your daily news!!

Learn how to protect yourself, your loved ones! Stand by for insights so startling you will never look at the news the same way again.

In mid-November, First Lady Laura Bush sent official Christmas cards to the Republican faithful in Texas.  This Christmas card contained the official White House seal inside and well wishes from Mrs. Bush.  However, the color picture inside was shocking!  Inside the card contained a picture of what looked like a wall inside the Bush home.  Hanging on the wall was a very large Phoenix Bird !


Now, I don't take the views of this person, but it does go to show you that there are people out there who don't like even what Bush did with Christmas cards, besides the fact that he didn't mention Christmas either... :-)

48 posted on 12/12/2009 3:13:12 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Raycpa

Like I said, there was no mention of Christmas in those cards and I said there was a verse in Matthew... :-)

It’s the same thing... President Bush was moving away from mentioning “Christmas” in his cards, too...

I think you’ll continue to see this with the Presidents from now on... Republican or Democrat, as they’ve both already been doing it...


49 posted on 12/12/2009 3:14:37 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: bjorn14
I’ve often wondered...

You are not alone.

Thus the constant decline of trust with our present POTUS.

50 posted on 12/12/2009 3:15:56 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Star Traveler

Yes it is called political correctness. The Bushes were reported to have some that said Merry Christmas and some that said Happy Holidays.

The Obama’s are another story. They bypass political correctness. They are downright fake treasonous usurpers.


51 posted on 12/12/2009 3:17:57 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: bjorn14

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Go to ‘The Obama File’ and read the sections ‘Islam’ and ‘Religion’. The evidence is overwhelming.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaIslam.htm

.


52 posted on 12/12/2009 3:19:43 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!<p>)
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To: Raycpa

Let me re-iterate what it is that the Presidents are moving away from in “Christmas”. There is — first of all — no mention of “Christmas” because that even that word would mention the “reason for the Season” — which is “Jesus Christ”. So, they make a move away from the “reason for the season” — and don’t mention “Jesus” in any way, or by name of the season, being “Christmas”.

And then any further mention is like Bush did, mentioning creation or happiness or joy or whatever — all pretty bland and generic mentions for the “holidays”.

The real reason for the Season is that Jesus, the Messiah of Israel came into the world, and then grew up and then died for the sins of the world, in order for all of us to have the salvation that God purposed for all to have, according to our choice (or not).

Even just mentioning Jesus, the Messiah of Israel as being born is not quite enough (as it is) — even though He is not mentioned any longer. It goes further as to the reason why He was born, and that was so that He could die for the sins of the world, taking that burden upon Himself, so that the whole world could be saved, as each one purposes in him or herself.


53 posted on 12/12/2009 3:21:49 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

There is no mention of Christmas in Matthew either, yet Matthew did have a part in spreading the gospel.


54 posted on 12/12/2009 3:22:56 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Star Traveler

I have read that Michelle Obama stated very clearly that they do not celebrate birthdays or Christmas with their daughters.

The long legged mack daddy and his hideous wife faked it all up for Oprah.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5968101.shtml

What do Radical black theologian muslim marxists celebrate? I will bet you it is not Christmas for a thousand, Alex.


55 posted on 12/12/2009 3:25:41 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
You were saying ...

What do Radical black theologian muslim marxists celebrate? I will bet you it is not Christmas for a thousand, Alex.

To me, whether one denies Christmas outright, or they simply refuse to mention it and the reason for the season, which is Jesus, the Messiah of Israel -- both positions lead to the same end -- and that is a total denial of what the Bible says, and for which all people have the only salvation that is offered to mankind, no others allowed...

One position may be getting there faster than the other position -- but they are both going to the same place...

56 posted on 12/12/2009 3:29:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Raycpa
You were saying ...

There is no mention of Christmas in Matthew either, yet Matthew did have a part in spreading the gospel.

It's just a way to "weasel out" of the situation of mentioning Christ or Christmas.

There are studies in schools, too -- of the Bible as literature. It's not true or it does not contain real history -- but rather is only something of literary interest.

All this is doing is making it a "tradition" and of "literary interest". It's a slide to the total non-mention of anything to do with Christmas, eventually. That's all this contributes to...

Now... let me give you something in "Matthew" and I will actually mention Christmas before I give this to you... LOL...


Here is part of the Christmas story about Jesus, the Messiah of Israel, from the Gospel of Matthew, up to the time when the Father in Heaven, acknowledged Him as His Son...



   Matthew Chapter One

 1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the
   Son of Abraham:

 2 Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot Judah and
   his brothers.

 3 Judah begot Perez and Zerah by Tamar, Perez begot Hezron, and
   Hezron begot Ram.

 4 Ram begot Amminadab, Amminadab begot Nahshon, and Nahshon begot
   Salmon.

 5 Salmon begot Boaz by Rahab, Boaz begot Obed by Ruth, Obed begot
   Jesse,
   
 6 and Jesse begot David the king.David the king begot Solomon by her
   who had been the wife of Uriah.

 7 Solomon begot Rehoboam, Rehoboam begot Abijah, and Abijah begot Asa.

 8 Asa begot Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat begot Joram, and Joram begot
   Uzziah.

 9 Uzziah begot Jotham, Jotham begot Ahaz, and Ahaz begot Hezekiah.

10 Hezekiah begot Manasseh, Manasseh begot Amon, and Amon begot Josiah.

11 Josiah begot Jeconiah and his brothers about the time they were
   carried away to Babylon.

12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jeconiah begot Shealtiel,
   and Shealtiel begot Zerubbabel.

13 Zerubbabel begot Abiud, Abiud begot Eliakim, and Eliakim begot Azor.

14 Azor begot Zadok, Zadok begot Achim, and Achim begot Eliud.

15 Eliud begot Eleazar, Eleazar begot Matthan, and Matthan begot Jacob.

16 And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus
   who is called Christ.

17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations,
   from David until the captivity in Babylon are fourteen generations,
   and from the captivity in Babylon until the Christ are fourteen
   generations.

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary
   was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found
   with child of the Holy Spirit.

19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her
   a public example, was minded to put her away secretly.

20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord
   appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be
   afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in
   her is of the Holy Spirit.

21 And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus,
   for He will save His people from their sins."

22 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by
   the Lord through the prophet, saying:

23 "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they
   shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."

24 Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord
   commanded him and took to him his wife,

25 and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son.
   And he called His name Jesus.

   Matthew Chapter Two

 1 Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod
   the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem,

 2 saying, "Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have
   seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him."

 3 When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem
   with him.

 4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the
   people together, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born.

 5 So they said to him, "In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written
   by the prophet:

 6 'But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, Are not the least among
   the rulers of Judah; For out of you shall come a Ruler Who will
   shepherd My people Israel.' "

 7 Then Herod, when he had secretly called the wise men, determined
   from them what time the star appeared.

 8 And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and search carefully for
   the young Child, and when you have found Him, bring back word to me,
   that I may come and worship Him also."

 9 When they heard the king, they departed; and behold, the star which
   they had seen in the East went before them, till it came and stood
   over where the young Child was.

10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceedingly great joy.

11 And when they had come into the house, they saw the young Child with
   Mary His mother, and fell down and worshiped Him. And when they had
   opened their treasures, they presented gifts to Him: gold, frankincense,
   and myrrh.

12 Then, being divinely warned in a dream that they should not return
   to Herod, they departed for their own country another way.

13 Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared
   to Joseph in a dream, saying, "Arise, take the young Child and His
   mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I bring you word; for
   Herod will seek the young Child to destroy Him."

14 When he arose, he took the young Child and His mother by night and
   departed for Egypt,

15 and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled
   which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, "Out of
   Egypt I called My Son."

16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was deceived by the wise men, was
   exceedingly angry; and he sent forth and put to death all the male
   children who were in Bethlehem and in all its districts, from two
   years old and under, according to the time which he had determined
   from the wise men.

17 Then was fulfilled what was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying:

18 "A voice was heard in Ramah, Lamentation, weeping, and great
   mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, Refusing to be comforted,
   Because they are no more."

19 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared in a
   dream to Joseph in Egypt,

20 saying, "Arise, take the young Child and His mother, and go to the
   land of Israel, for those who sought the young Child's life are dead."

21 Then he arose, took the young Child and His mother, and came into
   the land of Israel.

22 But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning over Judea instead
   of his father Herod, he was afraid to go there. And being warned
   by God in a dream, he turned aside into the region of Galilee.

23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that it might be
   fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, "He shall be called a
   Nazarene."

   Matthew Chapter Three

 1 In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of
    Judea,

 2 and saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!"

 3 For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, saying:
   "The voice of one crying in the wilderness: 'Prepare the way of
   the Lord; Make His paths straight.' "

 4 And John himself was clothed in camel's hair, with a leather belt
   around his waist; and his food was locusts and wild honey.

 5 Then Jerusalem, all Judea, and all the region around the Jordan
   went out to him

 6 and were baptized by him in the Jordan, confessing their sins.

 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his
   baptism, he said to them, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee
   from the wrath to come?

 8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance,

 9 and do not think to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our
   father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to
   Abraham from these stones.

10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore
   every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
   into the fire.

11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming
   after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry.
   He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

12 His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His
   threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn
   up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him.

14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You,
   and are You coming to me?"

15 But Jesus answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for
   thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he
   allowed Him.

16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water;
   and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of
   God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.

17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, "This is My beloved Son,
   in whom I am well pleased."

57 posted on 12/12/2009 3:34:19 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Raycpa

IIRC, Bush never used a New Testament Verse. Only Old Testament. Always seemed a little odd to me.


58 posted on 12/12/2009 3:39:26 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

If Nobama & his wacked family sent me a card I’d wipe something with it.


59 posted on 12/12/2009 3:52:03 PM PST by hal ogen
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All I can say is that Dante has a certain circle for waiting him when he arrives.....

“Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.”

1 Cor. 12:3


60 posted on 12/12/2009 3:53:59 PM PST by bjorn14 (Waterboard Obama. See if he knows anything.)
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