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Fellow PGA Pros Speak Out On Tiger Woods: 'A Phony And A Fake'
Yahoo Sports ^ | December 10, 2009

Posted on 12/10/2009 3:37:05 PM PST by Steelfish

Dec 10, 2009

Fellow PGA Pros Speak Out On Tiger Woods: 'A Phony And A Fake'

Jay Busbee

This is how bad it's getting for Tiger Woods: even his fellow pros are now starting to speak out against him.

First it was Jesper Parnevik expressing his frustration and disappointment, saying he "probably thought [Woods] was a better guy than he is." But Parnevik's outrage is understandable, given that he was the one who initially introduced Elin Nordegren to Tiger Woods.

Now, however, two players with no apparent direct connection to the scandal are taking their shots at Tiger. Ben Crane, an eight-year pro with two wins on the PGA Tour, and Charles Warren, a six-year veteran of the PGA Tour, each sharply criticized Woods, on the record, in the current issue of Life & Style magazine. (Visor tip: Sports By Brooks)

"This is no surprise to anyone who knows Tiger," said Crane, pictured above. "He's a phony and a fake and he can't retain that squeaky-clean endorsement deal any longer."

Crane also hinted that Elin Woods could have known all about Woods' alleged extramarital activities. "She's no fool," he said, and speculated that she possibly "turned a blind eye because of the money and the kids and the lifestyle he provides."

Warren also had a bit of advice for Elin, with uncompromising words for Woods. "She was very young when Jesper introduced them," Warren said. "She had stars in her eyes and maybe dollar signs too. But no, she should not stay with him.

What kind of message would that send to her sister and mother and all the women out there? prominence and, in turn, their paychecks. But Crane's comments indicate that Tiger's alleged proclivities were an open secret among Tour players.

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


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To: TWohlford
Just googled Elin. She certainly wasn't very shy about her body at one point. Looks like she had some jewelry in one pic.
61 posted on 12/10/2009 4:51:43 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: shadeaud

Read the link — these guys are denying that they made these statements “for the record” to this magazine.

That said, I bet Jack Nicklaus is secretly smiling at this little scandal.


62 posted on 12/10/2009 4:57:04 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: kabar
strength and courage to do things greater than we're capable of on our own. That's when we know we're in the will of God, when we are doing things that are greater than us."

Well, Ben, certainly wasn't in the will of God when he spoke since he didn't have the strength to keep him mouth shut! Here's two he needs to keep on his mouth and not in his wallet.

John 8:7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

Romans 2:1 Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.

Now who is the phony and a fake?
63 posted on 12/10/2009 5:02:17 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Now it’s being denied? I hope so. Certainly didn’t put them in a good light, IMO.


64 posted on 12/10/2009 5:03:55 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: dfwgator
Baloney,

Cheeta'n/ Lia'n Woods hasn't raised anybodies salary but his own. If Cheeta'n hadn't come along when he did eventually another steroid pumped baffoon would have showed up.

Listen up golf fan, Lia'n Woods has been abusing performance enhancing drugs since he was in high school & college.

He's also nuttier than a Army Drill Sargent's half breed child. Why do you think they muzzled Earl Sr. when Cheetah started becoming valuable. He's another typical black racist ( BHO, Rev. Wright, Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al) trying to get back at 'white women/white people' for living in an American 'white' Country Club world. He's got a ton of psychosocial pathology. Don't be surprised if he spins down into the dirt where he belongs. What a disgrace, people talking about money and how much Cheetah means to the game?

65 posted on 12/10/2009 5:04:05 PM PST by STD (President Imports Shooters to Start the War)
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To: dfwgator
Baloney,

Cheeta'n/ Lia'n Woods hasn't raised anybodies salary but his own. If Cheeta'n hadn't come along when he did eventually another steroid pumped baffoon would have showed up.

Listen up golf fan, Lia'n Woods has been abusing performance enhancing drugs since he was in high school & college.

He's also nuttier than a Army Drill Sargent's half breed child. Why do you think they muzzled Earl Sr. when Cheetah started becoming valuable. He's another typical black racist ( BHO, Rev. Wright, Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al) trying to get back at 'white women/white people' for living in an American 'white' Country Club world. He's got a ton of psychosocial pathology. Don't be surprised if he spins down into the dirt where he belongs. What a disgrace, people talking about money and how much Cheetah means to the game?

66 posted on 12/10/2009 5:04:07 PM PST by STD (President Imports Shooters to Start the War)
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To: presently no screen name
It is not a matter of my feelings. Woods is a huge public figure. It is not just about golf. With fame and celebrity come a lack of privacy and increased media coverage. Whether we like or not, Woods is a role model, which is why he is being paid over $100 million a year to endorse products.

And don't buy Wheaties if you are so offended.

I don't buy Wheaties before Woods' fall from grace. And it is not about me being personally offended. Tiger Woods doesn't pay my bills or have any impact on my life. I am not a golfer. I could care less about what happens to a billionaire entertainer, even one who endorsed Obama.

Never understood why anyone needs a hero w/the Hollywood crowd or w/sports.

Follow the money. Professional sports are part of the entertainment business. Billions of dollars are involved. It is big business. Image is part of selling the product and making money. As far as sports heroes are concerned, every kid involved in sports has heroes they pattern themselves after or respect. I certainly did. It is only when you become an adult that you realize that they are entertainers, not role models.

What I can't understand is this knee jerk reaction to defend Woods or say that it is none of our business. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

67 posted on 12/10/2009 5:05:24 PM PST by kabar
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To: harpu
And of course, he was our first living embodiment of the collective hope for racial reconciliation.

More PC BS
68 posted on 12/10/2009 5:08:52 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Steelfish
These guys all have a motive to destroy Woods. If they had any decency, they would just keep their mouths shut.

ML/NJ

69 posted on 12/10/2009 5:10:34 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: presently no screen name
Now who is the phony and a fake?

It appears Ben is the real thing and Tiger is the fake. Did Ben volunteer this response or was he asked his opinion by the media? He spoke the truth as he saw it. There is nothing in Christianity that stops one from speaking the truth or giving your opinion. It may be considered judgmental in this politically correct society that we have become, but there is a difference between right and wrong. Tiger is wrong. Bravo Ben for speaking the truth as well as Jasper.

70 posted on 12/10/2009 5:12:53 PM PST by kabar
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To: ml/nj

Woods is not a victim. His actions are self-destructive.


71 posted on 12/10/2009 5:15:19 PM PST by kabar
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To: RDTF

Yes, I believe both she and her sister were and both won first place in the PGA players’ best looking spouse contest while working for him.


72 posted on 12/10/2009 5:17:16 PM PST by Ahithophel
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To: kabar
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Hey, your the one that is all fired up about this - NOT me! All the money he makes, he's a role model, etc., etc, etc.

I don't buy Wheaties

You are the one that brought it up - saying his pix shouldn't be on the Wheaties box.

Woods is a role model, which is why he is being paid over $100 million a year to endorse products.

If you consider him a role model, you bought the lie from 'advertising scam'. Seems that's where you problem is - you were let down.
73 posted on 12/10/2009 5:22:58 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: kabar
His actions are self-destructive.

I wasn't suggesting that Woods is some kind of saint. I was referring to his competitors who would pour salt in his wounds; kick someone when he's down; you know. Such people do not rate highly on any moral scale I know.

ML/NJ

74 posted on 12/10/2009 5:23:02 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: cajungirl
Nicklaus did the right thing.

Yep.

75 posted on 12/10/2009 5:23:16 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: byteback

Was that photo taken recently? Do you know where?


76 posted on 12/10/2009 5:24:02 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: SeaHawkFan
While he probably thinks Tiger is a putz, there is no reason for him to state a fact everyone already knows; especially since he is the only golfer who has won more majors than Jack.

You probably meant, "won more majors than Tiger." Nicklaus 18, Woods 14.

77 posted on 12/10/2009 5:27:15 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: verity

Nonsense. I am a guy and I agree with her 100% (and I have never been cheated on either)


78 posted on 12/10/2009 5:41:27 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: ml/nj
If they really wanted to destroy him they could have done so years ago.
79 posted on 12/10/2009 5:43:07 PM PST by ejdrapes (Just like Obama, Palin is not the 2nd coming)
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To: Always Right

I wish to God someone would say publicly that Tiger is a disgrace. Because he is.


80 posted on 12/10/2009 5:44:26 PM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than three years now -- But I think about it every day.)
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